[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] MP3 PPSAI WG - Tuesday 07 January 2014 at 1500 UTC
Michael Adeyeye
micadeyeye at ngportal.com
Wed Jan 8 06:51:39 UTC 2014
Hi,
I was on the website the whole of yesterday. I connected to the meeting
and got a message that the meeting had not started.
And that I will be connected as soon as the organizers arrive. I kept
refreshing my browser but no luck.
I think my connection wasn't accepted at your end.
Regards.
On 07/01/14 20:31, Julia Charvolen wrote:
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> Dear All,
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>
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> Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services
> Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 07 January
> 2014 at 15:00 UTC at:
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> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140107-en.mp3
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> On page:
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> _http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#
> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>jan_
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> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the
> GNSO Master Calendar page:
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> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/
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> _Attendees:_
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> James Bladel - RrSG
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> Amr Elsadr - NCUC
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> Alex Deacon -- IPC
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> Don Blumenthal - RySG
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> Gordon Dick - RrSG
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> Luc Seufer - RrSG
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> Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC
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> Steve Metalitz - IPC
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> Michele Neylon - RrSG
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> Todd Williams - IPC
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> Volker Greimann - RrSG
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> Carlton Samuels - At-Large
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> Stephanie Perrin - NCUC
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> Griffin Barnett -- IPC
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> Justin Macy -- CBUC
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> Kathy Kleiman -- RySG
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> Keith Kupfershmid -- IPC
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> Osvaldo Novoa -- ISPCP
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> Phil Marano -- IPC
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> Gema Campillos - GAC
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> Val Sherman -- SOI
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> Statton Hammock -- RrSG
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> Tobias Sattler -- RrSG
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> Paul McGrady -- IPC
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> Victoria Sheckler -- IPC
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> Kiran Malancharuvil -- IPC
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> Jim Bikoff -- IPC
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> Matt Serlin -- RrSG
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> Brian Winterfeldt -- IPC
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> David Cake - NCSG
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> Ben Anderson - RrSG
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> _ _
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> _Apologies:_
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> Holly Raiche -- ALAC
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> Maria Farrell -- NCUC
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> Hector Ariel Manoff -- IPC
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> _ICANN staff:_
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> Marika Konings
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> Mary Wong
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> Margie Milam
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> Joe Catapano
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> Julia Charvolen
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> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
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> Mailing list archives:
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> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-irtpd/
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> Wiki page:
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> https://community.icann.org/x/B4JwAg
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> Thank you.
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> Kind regards,
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> Julia Charvolen
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>
> *_Adobe Connect chat transcript for _**_Tuesday 07 January 2014:_*
>
> Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 7 January 2014
> Carlton Samuels:Hiya, Every Good Wish to ALl of You for 2014
> Osvaldo Novoa:hello everyone. Is the audio on?
> Volker Greimann:I can hear
> Carlton Samuels:I can hear you
> Tobias Sattler:I can hear you
> Carlton Samuels:DC was my hometown for 16 years Mary. Can't say I
> miss it just now
> Carlton Samuels::-)
> Julia Charvolen:please mute your microphone or speaker if you are
> not speaking, we can hear an echo
> Julia Charvolen:thank you
> Mary Wong:Carlton, with the cold and the traiin delays today in DC,
> can't say I blame you :)
> Statton Hammock:You all should be in Seattle. it will be 50 degrees
> today and just a slight drizzle. typical winter day here.
> steve metalitz:are others hearing an echo on phone bridge?
> Tobias Sattler:Yes
> Mary Wong:Me too
> Julia Charvolen:Marie Laure Lemineur joined the Adobe Connect
> Mary Wong:If you're on both the audio/phone bridge and the AC room,
> please mute one or the other. If you're not speaking, please mute your
> mic.
> Julia Charvolen:@ PPSAI: Would you mind giving me your name and
> affilitation for transcripts and attendance please
> PPSAI:I am participating in the conference call. I think PPSAI is
> me, Gema Campillos
> Julia Charvolen:Kiran Malancharuvil joined the Adobe Connect
> Marie-laure Lemineur:Thank you Carlton...same to you!!
> Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks Julia.
> Julia Charvolen:James Bikoff and Matt Serlin joined the phone bridge
> Julia Charvolen:Brian Winterfeldt and Luc Seufer joined the Adobe
> Connect
> Julia Charvolen:@ Gema: thank you noted
> Julia Charvolen:David Cake joined the phone bridge
> Julia Charvolen:Alex Deacon joined the meeting
> Julia Charvolen:James Bladel joined the Adobe Connect
> Statton Hammock:Looks fine to me Steve.
> Luc Seufer:This echo is a bit annoying.
> Volker Greimann:I must apologize,
> Volker Greimann:i had not had a chance to review
> Volker Greimann:due to being away on vacation until today
> Julia Charvolen:Paul McGrady joined the meeting
> Julia Charvolen:I am checking for the echo problem
> Osvaldo Novoa:I have no problem with the text as it is
> Julia Charvolen:@ all: Please let me know if you can still hear the
> echo, it seems to have gone away now
> Tobias Sattler:I can still hear the echo
> Julia Charvolen:Victoria Shekler joined the phone bridge
> Paul McGrady:I can still here the echo, but it is not so bad.
> Marie-laure Lemineur:same with me...
> Julia Charvolen:Stephanie Perrin joined the meeting
> Justin Macy:@Julia, I can still hear the echo, but it's not unbearable.
> Marika Konings:@PPSAI - can you please identify yourself so we can
> update your name in the Adobe Connect?
> Paul McGrady:I can no longer here the echo. Thanks!
> Marie-laure Lemineur:Echo is gone....thanks Julia
> Julia Charvolen:Thank you
> Justin Macy:Echo gone, Thanks!
> Julia Charvolen:Amr Elsadr joined the Adobe Connect
> Amr Elsadr:Dialling in.
> Carlton Samuels:Input to the EWG miossed
> Julia Charvolen:Keith Kupferschmid joined Adobe Connect and phone bridge
> Amr Elsadr:On the call now. Sorry I'm late.
> Julia Charvolen:Please mute your lines/ speakers if you are not
> speaking, thank you
> Marika Konings:Apologies, one of the numbers on the agenda was missing.
> Keith Kupferschmid:Just joined the call. Sorry fro being late.
> Julia Charvolen:Kathy Kleiman joined the Adobe Connect
> Luc Seufer:Really? I am not sure staff and I have the same
> definition as a good
> "chunk"http://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accredited-list.html
> Michele Neylon:Luc +1
> Julia Charvolen:Please mute your line if you are not speaking, we
> can hear background noise, thank you
> Carlton Samuels:@Luc: Can I ask of the registrars accredited under
> RAA2013, do we know what percentage of registrations they front?
> Stephanie Perrin:lost line, will call back sorry
> Luc Seufer:@Carlton I don't have those figures.
> Todd Williams:Steve +1 on compiling the published information
> Marie-laure Lemineur:I support Steve´s idea
> Keith Kupferschmid:Steve's points make sense. Agree with the
> recomendation that ICANN staff compile the material published in
> accordance with 2013 RAA
> Carlton Samuels:@Luc Thanks. I was thinking that since its the
> registration that is the sweet spot in the chain, maybe the 80:20 rule
> reversed could be applied for moving forward; 20% of registrars
> account for 80-% of registrations.
> Ben Anderson:Approx. 16% of Registrars on 2013 ignoring Parent/child
> accreditations
> Kathy Kleiman:+1 Stephanie - there is due process and procedures
> protected under law (and monitored by courts).
> Ben Anderson:997 Registrars, 7 on 2001 RRA, 824 on 2009 RRA and 166
> on 2013 RRA
> Kathy Kleiman:To Staff: I've sent two revised documents to the list,
> but have not yet seen them posted. Could someone approve them?
> Kathy Kleiman:(assuming that they have to be approved by the
> moderator before posting)
> Carlton Samuels:@Ben: Thanks. Very useful info for me
> Kathy Kleiman:Tx you, Mary!
> Marika Konings:@Kathy - these seem to have just come through
> Kathy Kleiman:Mary could you share support for Stephanie on list???
> Marika Konings:@Kathy - FWIW, there is no moderator, but only
> members with the email addresses that they have subscribed with can
> post to the list.
> Kathy Kleiman:Marika, I've forwarded revised documents to you, and
> ask that you post them to the list?
> Kathy Kleiman:I think we should keep this open for additional work.
> Marika Konings:@Kathy - your email on the revised SG-C input
> template has already come through.
> Julia Charvolen:Don Blumenthal joined the Adobe Connect
> Amr Elsadr:Yes..., Kathy is absolutely right.
> Marie-laure Lemineur:@kathy agree! and individuals who have
> commercial activities
> Carlton Samuels:@Marika: I'm a member of the EWG. Have also penned a
> few ALAC Statements on the matter that outlines the consensus
> position. I would prefer not to commit my own thinking now. However, I
> will fill only if I think my preferred position is controversial and
> is not reflected.
> Stephanie Perrin:Agree with K on privacy of groups, except that
> degree of organization may not be a relevant factor
> Stephanie Perrin:eg incorporation, ngo status
> Marie-laure Lemineur:@carlton. My understanding is that the
> responses reflect the individual position of the WG member..but maybe
> staff can clarify...
> Carlton Samuels:@Kathy +1. Circulate the Final Report by WHOIS RT!
> Mary Wong:Thx Kathy - the Whois RT Final Report has been added to
> the Background Documents page on the WG
> wiki:https://community.icann.org/display/gnsopnpsrvaccrdtwg/Background+Documents
> Carlton Samuels:The ALAC position is reflected there
> Kathy Kleiman:Tx Mary!
> Mary Wong:No worries, Kathy - if you could also suggest the types of
> additional categories/questions you had in mind to the list, that may
> help with further WG discussion on those points as well.
> Carlton Samuels:@Stephanie: No traction on changing the label. It
> would satisfy the ALAC position since we have 2 fundamental positions.
> 1. Providers must be accredited via a transparent process. 2
> Regardless of whether it is a proxy or a privacy service, the provider
> accepts strict liability for compliance with the RAA contract
> Bladel:Audio problems.
> Bladel:I will post in the chat.
> Marie-laure Lemineur:@steve...I have the same concerns about the two
> tracks...
> Julia Charvolen:We are unmuting James
> Stephanie Perrin:In response to Gema..yes my point was that
> distinctions for the purposes of determining data protection rights
> cannot rest on whether or not the proxy/shield registrant is a n
> individual, a legal person, or an incorporated entity or personal
> business of any kind.
> Julia Charvolen:James is on the phone bridge unmuted
> Gema Maria Campillos:Thank you, Stephanie. You happen to think like
> me in this point. Sorry to misunderstand your oral point.
> Mary Wong:To follow up on Marika's point about these questions
> already being in the WG Charter, note that all of the questions were
> taken from prior community work on WHois, from the WHois RT to the
> GNSO-ALAC DT. If it would be helpful, this is all detailed in the
> Staff Paper describing this PDP (also included in the Background
> Documents on the WG WIki, linked above).
> Julia Charvolen:James Bladel joined the phone bridge
> Volker Greimann:James made my point
> Marie-laure Lemineur:do we have a deadline for additional input for
> the grouping ?
> Marie-laure Lemineur:or we leave it open?
> Paul McGrady:Thank you everyone! Great discussion!
> Carlton Samuels:Bye all
> Statton Hammock:Thanks Steve for chairing. Bye all.
> Marie-laure Lemineur:thank you Steve and all
> Marie-laure Lemineur:bye
> Amr Elsadr:Thanks. Bye.
> Justin Macy:Thank you!
> Kathy Kleiman:Bye all
>
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