[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list

Marika Konings marika.konings at icann.org
Thu May 22 12:20:50 UTC 2014 

Per Kathy's email, I thought it might be helpful to remind you of the WG's
Preliminary Conclusion for Question B-1: 'The WG agrees that domain name
registrations involving privacy/proxy service providers should be clearly
labeled as such in Whois. The WG observes that there may be various ways to
implement this recommendation in order to achieve this objective and
suggests that the feasibility and effectiveness of these options is further
explored as part of the implementation process. As an example, it was
suggested that P/P services could be required to provide the registration
data in a uniform / standard format that would make it clear that the domain
name registration involves a P/P service such as entering in the field for
registrant information ŒService Name, on behalf of customer¹ (in the case of
a proxy service this could then include a number, customer #512, while in
the case of a privacy service it would include the actual customer name).
Following submission of this information to the registrar, this information
would then be displayed in Whois making it clearly identifiable as a domain
name registration involving a P/P service'.

Best regards,

Marika

From:  Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
Date:  Wednesday 21 May 2014 17:19
To:  "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list

I share the questions James is raising.  All, I thought we already agreed
that accredited p/p providers have to identify themselves in the "Registrant
line" of the Whois listing. So that it is obvious to someone reviewing the
Whois record what they are seeking, and who to contact for the underlying
customer information.  In that case, do we still need a new flag?

Best,
Kathy
:
> Are we talking about a new kind of status?  I think any flag would have to be
> in the data field itself.  The P/P provider cannot create a new field for the
> ³flag² or set /clear flags in WHOIS.  That¹s the Registrar.
> 
> For example, if there is some future equivalent to IANA ID numbers for P/P
> services, they should append this to their name in WHOIS.
> 
> J.
> 
> 
> From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at 7:52
> To: Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org"
> <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
> 
> Volker
>  
> Would you have an issue with there being an extra "flag" to indicate that a
> domain was using a PP?
>  
> M
>  
>  
> 
> --
> Mr Michele Neylon
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> 
> From:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:55 AM
> To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>  
> Agreed. 
> 
> 1) There is no compelling reason to exclude potentially legal use of privacy
> services. 
> 2) The service provided essentially remains the same, therefore no
> differentiation in the whois output is necessary.
> 
> Volker
> 
> Am 21.05.2014 00:06, schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:
>> Personally I think two things:
>> 1 ­ P/P services should be open to anyone who wants to use them
>> 2 ­ the display in whois should be the same no matter who or what has
>> registered the domain
>>  
>> With respect to point 2, I don¹t have any issue with there being a ³flag² of
>> some kind to indicate that a registration record is using an accredited P/P
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Michele
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> --
>> Mr Michele Neylon
>> Blacknight Solutions
>> Hosting & Colocation, Domains
>> http://www.blacknight.co/
>> http://blog.blacknight.com/
>> http://www.technology.ie
>> Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
>> Locall: 1850 929 929
>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
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>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon
>> -------------------------------
>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845
>>  
>> 
>> From:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Metalitz, Steven
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:07 PM
>> To: 'Marika Konings'; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>>  
>> Thanks to all participants on today¹s call.  Following up on requests made on
>> the call ----
>>  
>> Regarding Don¹s draft preliminary text regarding questions C(threshold), C 1
>> and C2, please circulate your comments and (especially welcomed!) proposed
>> edits.  Don¹s draft is re-attached here for ready reference.
>>  
>> Regarding question C.3:  If the following applies to you, please respond on
>> the list: 
>>  
>> IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open to commercial
>> entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be a difference in the
>> data displayed for such registrations (vs. what is displayed for p/p
>> registrations by natural persons)?  If the answer is YES, please specify the
>> differences.   
>>  
>> For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that any YES people
>> will step forward on the list.
>>  
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> Steve Metalitz, vice chair
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> From:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings
>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:39 PM
>> To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG Meeting
>>  
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI WG Meeting.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Marika
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Proposed Agenda ­ PPSAI WG Meeting ­ 20 May 2014
>> 1. Roll Call / SOI
>> 2. Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold question, C1 and C2
>> (as circulated by Don)
>> 3. Review C3 ­ is additional response/discussion needed in light of item 2?
>> (see template attached)
>> 4. Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template attached)
>> 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting
>> 
>> 
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