[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
James M. Bladel
jbladel at godaddy.com
Fri May 23 13:55:41 UTC 2014
Can we get one of our Chairs/Vice-Chairs to rein in this thread?
Preferably offline or via the Office of the Ombudsman.
Thanks—
J.
On 5/23/14, 8:52 , "Kiran Malancharuvil"
<Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com> wrote:
>Volker,
>
>I actually can NOT believe that you are attempting to justify a comment
>that is so clearly sexist and demeaning on it's face. Of course you
>don't see the offense in a comment that does not apply to you.
>
>I will not apologize or back down from my pending request for an apology
>in that matter.
>
>That being said, at what point have I refused to discuss or contribute to
>the substance, or "meat" of the issue? At what point did my request for
>an apology color my contribution or my willingness to engage?
>
>If you will go back and look at my earlier email, I only used the sexist
>comment to illustrate that there is, largely, no "blood feud" as you put
>it.
>
>K
>
>Kiran Malancharuvil
>Internet Policy Counselor
>MarkMonitor
>415-419-9138 (m)
>
>Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>
>> On May 23, 2014, at 8:38 AM, "Volker Greimann"
>><vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>
>> Isn't that part of the problem? Needing an apology for a comment that
>>was in all likelyhood not meant as an offense?
>>
>> I did not make the comment and I do not remember who did, but my mother
>>does not know what whois is yet she is quite internet savvy. Do we
>>really need to put every word uttered up for debate? Would the comment
>>have been better as "97.63% of all mothers probably don't know what
>>Whois is"? Should we really care about this more than the substantive
>>issues we are trying to solve here?
>>
>> If we all agree to try not to be offended by every word said in haste
>>or without concern, we might actually get this done. Let us focus on the
>>meat, not the fluff or distractions.
>>
>> Edit: Now I looked at the transcript and know who said what, but I
>>cannot for the heck see an intentional insult there. Agreed to move on?
>>
>> Enjoy your vacation,
>>
>> V.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 23.05.2014 15:24, schrieb Kiran Malancharuvil:
>>> So then we agree to elevate the level of discourse, which is my point.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I'm still waiting for an apology from whoever said that
>>>"mothers don't know what Whois is." Other than that, I see no "feud,"
>>>but I do think that there is an inordinate amount of individuals
>>>brushing off other legitimate concerns. That's what I aim to eliminate.
>>>
>>> It's not personal Volker, it's that I have every right in this forum
>>>and others to ensure that my side of the issue is fairly represented
>>>and that language choices in the documents don't unfairly color the
>>>public perception of the situation.
>>>
>>> Now if you'll excuse me, I am supposed to be on vacation.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Kiran
>>>
>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>> MarkMonitor
>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>
>>>> On May 23, 2014, at 8:06 AM, "Volker Greimann"
>>>><vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have no issues with other people clearly deliniating their
>>>>positions. OTOH, endless discussions about rodents lairs, making
>>>>blanket assumptions about initial draft documents, calling others
>>>>disrespectful, unnecessary, and inappropriate seems to be less than
>>>>helpful to the continued progress of this group. We need constructive
>>>>work.
>>>>
>>>> We are all here to get a good, solid result here, not to start
>>>>blood-feuds. I hope everyone remembers that before anything else, we
>>>>need to be a tam to achieve results. Sure, we may have different
>>>>opinions on certain issues, but if we cannot cooperate, we are doomed
>>>>to fail. We should all remember this.
>>>>
>>>> No result here means that the p/p spec in the 2013 RAA will expire
>>>>without having been replaced by a sold foundation for all p/p services.
>>>>
>>>> No offense,
>>>>
>>>> Volker
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.05.2014 14:57, schrieb Kiran Malancharuvil:
>>>>> We did propose a change, and we are discussing on the list in order
>>>>>to avoid taking precious time on the call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, please refrain from calling other peoples positions a waste of
>>>>>time. It's disrespectful, unnecessary, and inappropriate for
>>>>>professional discourse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kiran
>>>>>
>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 23, 2014, at 7:30 AM, "Volker Greimann"
>>>>>><vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it really matter? Do we need to waste next weeks call on the
>>>>>>word "overwhelming"?
>>>>>> Propose a change, then move on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 23.05.2014 14:10, schrieb Kiran Malancharuvil:
>>>>>>> So if everyone is so well aware, why did we end up with a document
>>>>>>>with the wording "overwhelming majority"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 23, 2014, at 4:32 AM, "Volker Greimann"
>>>>>>>><vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are well aware of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines and what
>>>>>>>>the different levels of consensus mean. Tim is right: there does
>>>>>>>>not need to be a vote to determine if a position is a consensus
>>>>>>>>position.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For example, from the current discussion results, the
>>>>>>>>determination for the question of whether to prohibit commercialy
>>>>>>>>used domain names from p/p services seems to be Divergence/No
>>>>>>>>Consensus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 22.05.2014 18:37, schrieb Kiran Malancharuvil:
>>>>>>>>> Also incorrect. GNSO guidelines dictate what consensus means.
>>>>>>>>>Marika provides a link to these guidelines. Individuals are
>>>>>>>>>welcome to participate and there are guidelines as to how to
>>>>>>>>>count those votes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kiran
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 9:35 AM, "Tim Ruiz" <tim at godaddy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will also note that is is not just the SG/C feeback that
>>>>>>>>>>counts. The working group is not restricted to representatives
>>>>>>>>>>of SGs or Cs. Anyone (individuals) may participate, have a
>>>>>>>>>>voice, and have their opinion counted. I believe that's why we
>>>>>>>>>>have moved away from voting and toward the consensus positions.
>>>>>>>>>>The Chair and Vice Chairs get the wonderful job of trying to
>>>>>>>>>>determine what the consensus is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 11:30 AM, "Tim Ruiz" <tim at godaddy.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a cross SO/AC WG. It is a GNSO PDP on a matter
>>>>>>>>>>>that is under the GNSO umbrella of issues. As such, what we
>>>>>>>>>>>need is SG and C input/feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 10:35 AM, "Kiran Malancharuvil"
>>>>>>>>>>>><Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly our point. I believe you also made this point a
>>>>>>>>>>>>couple weeks ago. Despite the number of individual voices,
>>>>>>>>>>>>there hasn't been a lot of diverse (from an SO/AC perspective)
>>>>>>>>>>>>input. To that point, there should probably be outreach on
>>>>>>>>>>>>this point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> K
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>>>>>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 8:32 AM, "James M. Bladel"
>>>>>>>>>>>>><jbladel at godaddy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Steve¹s point: What other SO/ACs are speaking on this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aren¹t we all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or at least the vocal elements) GNSO?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/14, 10:05 , "Kiran Malancharuvil"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe we intended to make clear that, as working group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>members, we do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not vote as individuals but rather as representatives of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>our individual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SO/AC/C. While a vote hasn't taken place yet, it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>important to remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sheer volume of vocal individuals isn't the point,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>regardless of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you fall on the issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> K
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 8:01 AM, "Metalitz, Steven"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Libby, this is a helpful contribution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you clarify one point:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ³However, a number of WG members, representing their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SO/AC/C,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagreedŠ.² Which SO/AC/C are you referring to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Libby Baney [mailto:libby.baney at fwdstrategies.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:55 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Marika Konings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Metalitz, Steven;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>g>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All -- as evidenced on last week's call, there is concern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language in the draft conclusion for Cat C threshold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>question. Per the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> request for specific edits, attached are redlined edits to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted for the group's consideration by FWD Strategies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Int'l,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LegitScript, MarkMonitor and DomainTools. We look forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments and further discussion if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.FWDstrategies.com<http://www.FWDstrategies.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Marika Konings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following on from Steve's emails, please find attached the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates for C3 and D1, incorporating the notes from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meeting (if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've missed anything, please share your comments / edits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with the mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list). To re-emphasise the action items from the meeting:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Please provide your input on the draft preliminary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conclusion for C
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threshold, C1 and C2 as circulated by Don. Several of you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing the word 'overwhelming' from the draft. Are there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed edits?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Please provide your input on question C3, especially if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you are of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the view that there should be differences in the data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fields displayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for commercial entity and natural person P/P registrations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Please provide your input on question D1, especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whether it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be desirable to have a public registry of P/P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>services contact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information and a requirement to respond to enquiries both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from P/P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers as well as those looking to contact P/P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>customers. Input on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what would qualify as a 'response' and a possible timeframe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for responses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are also encouraged.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Kathy and James will provide an update at the next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>meeting on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues surrounding transfers between registrars of P/P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>registrations and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible questions the WG may want to address in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>context.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: <Metalitz>, Steven <met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday 20 May 2014 18:06
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Marika Konings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rg>"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rg>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all participants on today¹s call. Following up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on requests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made on the call ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Don¹s draft preliminary text regarding questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C(threshold),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C 1 and C2, please circulate your comments and (especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>welcomed!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed edits. Don¹s draft is re-attached here for ready
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding question C.3: If the following applies to you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>please respond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the list:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>difference in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the data displayed for such registrations (vs. what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>displayed for p/p
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registrations by natural persons)? If the answer is YES,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>please specify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the differences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any YES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people will step forward on the list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Metalitz, vice chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bounces at icann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Marika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>g>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WG Meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marika
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposed Agenda PPSAI WG Meeting 20 May 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Roll Call / SOI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>question, C1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and C2 (as circulated by Don)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Review C3 is additional response/discussion needed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> item 2? (see template attached)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attached)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>g>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libby Baney, JD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FWD Strategies International
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.fwdstrategies.com<http://www.fwdstrategies.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P: 202-499-2296
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>zu setzen.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to
>>>>contact us.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Volker A. Greimann
>>>> - legal department -
>>>>
>>>> Key-Systems GmbH
>>>> Im Oberen Werk 1
>>>> 66386 St. Ingbert
>>>> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>>>> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>>>> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>>>>
>>>> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
>>>> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
>>>>
>>>> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay
>>>>updated:
>>>> www.facebook.com/KeySystems
>>>> www.twitter.com/key_systems
>>>>
>>>> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
>>>> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
>>>> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
>>>>
>>>> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
>>>> www.keydrive.lu
>>>>
>>>> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to
>>>>whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any
>>>>content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely
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>>>>contacting us by telephone.
>>
>> --
>> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
>>
>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>>
>> Volker A. Greimann
>> - Rechtsabteilung -
>>
>> Key-Systems GmbH
>> Im Oberen Werk 1
>> 66386 St. Ingbert
>> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>>
>> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
>> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
>>
>> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
>> www.facebook.com/KeySystems
>> www.twitter.com/key_systems
>>
>> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
>> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
>> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
>>
>> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
>> www.keydrive.lu
>>
>> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen
>>Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder
>>Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese
>>Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns
>>per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>>
>> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to
>>contact us.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Volker A. Greimann
>> - legal department -
>>
>> Key-Systems GmbH
>> Im Oberen Werk 1
>> 66386 St. Ingbert
>> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>>
>> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
>> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
>>
>> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay
>>updated:
>> www.facebook.com/KeySystems
>> www.twitter.com/key_systems
>>
>> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
>> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
>> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
>>
>> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
>> www.keydrive.lu
>>
>> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom
>>it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content
>>of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this
>>e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this
>>e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or
>>contacting us by telephone.
>>
>>
>>
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