[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] A very brief report f from M3AAWG

Don Blumenthal dblumenthal at pir.org
Fri Oct 24 16:24:05 UTC 2014

Thanks, James. The first issue had occurred to me. The second hadn't, and I think it more significant because of the de facto disclose. Perhaps a publish in some circumstances.

My thought is to focus on the issues that we have to address and catch up with this one later.


From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com]
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 12:11 PM
To: Don Blumenthal
Cc: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] A very brief report f from M3AAWG

Don and PPSAI Team:

We have also explored this internally, and the short story is that it isn't acceptable to our customers.

Especially those holding large portfolios of domains for investment, as it is too easy to cross-reference a Unique ID to compile the entire portfolio, which would otherwise be private.  Similarly, if someone purchases a domain name from a P/P customer, then they immediately know the identity for all private domains associated with the same Unique ID.

Happy to discuss further on our next call, especially if you believe it will come up again in Public Comments.  But generally, this concept of "Privacy Lite" is a non-starter for us....


James Bladel

On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal at pir.org<mailto:dblumenthal at pir.org>> wrote:
I gave a presentation at this week's conference in Boston. It was a something of a 20 minute version of the ICANN All Things WHOIS program, although with fewer topics and a focus on details that were most likely to be of interest to the anti abuse community.

Four people raised the same suggestion either before the session or during Q/A: Require providers to assign unique IDs to their customers so that we can identify the p/p registrations held by a given entity even if we don't know who is it.

We can explore the idea or not, but I am certain that it will be suggested in public comments to our draft report. FWIW, the suggesters (word?) aren't affiliated and were an international group.

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