[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Questions for P/P providers from the WG call earlier today

Kathy Kleiman kathy at kathykleiman.com
Tue Sep 23 14:12:18 UTC 2014

Tx Chris and All,

There seems to be a pattern here that certainly defies some of my 
assumptions coming into the WG:
1. P/P Providers dedicate a lot of time and care to Reveal
2. Many P/P are not webhosts
3. So content is generally outside their balliwick.
==> This certainly changes my analysis a bit. Tx you for the insight!
> Hi All,
> Let me answer from our point of view and how we handle things :
> 1.  Because we look at EACH and EVERY request manually if by ticket or 
> mail, all requests for disclosure are passed to the PP customer,  we 
> ask the 2 parties requestee and pp customer to resolve whatever issue 
> between them, as this is the best way forward for all parties.
> 2.  There is little point allowing a deletion of the domain, as it 
> will then simply be registered elsewhere.  However, in point 1 getting 
> the 2 parties talking and more to the point a resolution fixes the issue.
> 3.  Case by Case basis - we do not host material for example, thus 
> DMCA as an example is simply passed on.  If the issue is with the 
> actual domain name, then UDRP.
> 4.  Well I can answer this one, in the last year we have had 2 
> requests if memory serves and thus 2 disclosures.
> 5.  As 4, only LEA.  We would only disclose on LEA request (in our 
> jurisdiction) or Court order.
> Kind regards,
> Chris
> NetEarth One, inc
> On 16/09/2014 11:38 PM, Mary Wong wrote:
>> Dear WG members,
>> With the Chairs' consent, I'm sending on the questions that were 
>> asked by several WG members during the call earlier today, in the 
>> hopes that those members who are or know of P/P providers and their 
>> practices can respond. If links to or copies of provider practices 
>> and policies can be provided, that would be very helpful too.
>>  1. What are provider practices regarding customer notification when
>>     a disclosure request is received, and is the customer given the
>>     opportunity to respond? (Note - on the call, James had agreed to
>>     provide information about DBP; Graeme and Michele had responded
>>     on behalf of their respective companies -- perhaps other
>>     providers besides DBP can also step in here?)
>>  2. Does any provider offer its customer an option other than
>>     disclosure or publication, e.g. an opportunity to cancel the
>>     registration instead (i.e. what some WG members have mentioned as
>>     a "takedown")?
>>  3. What are provider "standards" for determining disclosure to third
>>     parties?
>>  4. Can providers give the WG some general information about the
>>     percentage of requests for disclosure that are successful
>>  5. For Q4, do providers also have information about the type of
>>     claims those relate to e.g. If they are from LEA, 3P IP claim etc.?
>> As also noted on the call, the Chairs will discuss some of the 
>> responses and suggestions that were made, with a view toward 
>> hopefully offering some kind of summary or recommendation in time for 
>> the call next week.
>> Thanks and cheers
>> Mary
>> Mary Wong
>> Senior Policy Director
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
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