[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Company Disclosures - Irish Case

Barry Shein bzs at world.std.com
Tue Aug 18 17:50:13 UTC 2015

On August 18, 2015 at 15:26 vgreimann at key-systems.net (Volker Greimann) wrote:
 > So there is absolutely no need for whois in Europe.

(IF the domain is associated with a website?)

So make WHOIS just a DNS record maintained by the domain owner however
they see fit, or not.

If someone finds that inadequate they can proceed with whatever they
would do to obtain customer records from any company in any situation
such as request the records from the source.

For DNS that's a registrar or ICANN, but for a phone number for
example that would be the phone company or source of the phone number
-- if found in a newspaper ask the newspaper if they have more contact
information for an advertiser and would they be willing to share that

Other sources likely exist, try googling the domain name for its owner
or search sources such as corporate listings or legal cases.

And if that response is inadequate to their needs seek authority from
a court of competent jurisdiction or similar (trade regulator, etc.)
to compel disclosure from whomever one sees as a potentially
productive source.

I keep coming back to the question of what are the use cases for

Not just "to find the owner of a domain", but for what purposes and
how and why that should be supported? And to what level of (enforced)

        -Barry Shein

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