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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Don & All-<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Maybe this will help clear up the confusion- from the definition of Proxy Service under the 2013 RAA Spec:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>1.3 "Proxy Service" is a service through which a Registered Name Holder licenses use of a Registered Name to the P/P Customer in order to provide the P/P Customer use of the domain name, and the Registered Name Holder's contact information is displayed in the Registration Data Service (Whois) or equivalent services rather than the P/P Customer's contact information.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>All the best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Margie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Don Blumenthal [mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> Margie Milam; Volker Greimann; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>I get more baffled as we go with this thread. How would the beneficial holder of a domain be in a license arrangement with a p/p provider? I can’t see it under any definition of the term “license” that I have seen. Examples welcome for educational purposes but the final word won’t be up to the WG. We will pull the points made in this thread and use them to frame our questions for GC. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b>Margie Milam <<a href="mailto:Margie.Milam@icann.org">Margie.Milam@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM<br><b>To: </b>Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>, PPSAI <<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Also— the P/P Specification from the 2013 RAA also refers to licensee:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.1<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>"P/P Customer" means, regardless of the terminology used by the P/P Provider, the licensee, customer, beneficial user, beneficiary, or other recipient of Privacy Services and Proxy Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>All the best,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Margie</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Margie Milam<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:24 AM<br><b>To:</b> Volker Greimann; <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Volker & All-</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not aware of a definition of licensing in the 2013 RAA or any of the previous versions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>However, please look at it Section 3.4.1.5 from the 2013 RAA that uses the term “licensee” in the context of proxy registration services:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>3.4.1.5 the name, postal address, e-mail address, and voice telephone number provided by the customer of any privacy service or licensee of any proxy registration service, in each case, offered or made available by Registrar or its Affiliates in connection with each registration. Effective on the date that ICANN fully implements a Proxy Accreditation Program established in accordance with Section 3.14, the obligations under this Section 3.4.1.5 will cease to apply as to any specific category of data (such as postal address) that is expressly required to be retained by another party in accordance with such Proxy Accreditation Program.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Margie</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'><a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Margie,<br><br>as discussed earlier today, there seems to be disagreement over what the term "licensing" means and if it should apply to privacy or proxy services.<br><br>Volker<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am 11.02.2014 17:08, schrieb Margie Milam:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>All-</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think the language you are looking for is in the body of the 2013 RAA under Section 3.7.7.3 below: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>3.7.7.3 Any Registered Name Holder that intends to license use of a domain name to a third party is nonetheless the Registered Name Holder of record and is responsible for providing its own full contact information and for providing and updating accurate technical and administrative contact information adequate to facilitate timely resolution of any problems that arise in connection with the Registered Name. A Registered Name Holder licensing use of a Registered Name according to this provision shall accept liability for harm caused by wrongful use of the Registered Name, unless it discloses the current contact information provided by the licensee and the identity of the licensee within seven (7) days to a party providing the Registered Name Holder reasonable evidence of actionable harm.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Margie</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Marika Konings; Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>No. This language does not exist in the 2013 RAA.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun13-en.htm#privacy-proxy">http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/raa/approved-with-specs-27jun13-en.htm#privacy-proxy</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>J.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 11, 2014 at 8:06 <br><b>To: </b>Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria" <<a href="mailto:GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es">GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>So it’s not in the RAA then is it?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Michele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Blacknight 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9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mneylon">http://twitter.com/mneylon</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>-------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>From:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'> Marika Konings [<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">mailto:marika.konings@icann.org</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight; Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'>Michele, the reference comes from a document that was produced in February 2009, so presumably it is referring to an earlier version of the RAA.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'>Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IE>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-IE>Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday 11 February 2014 14:56<br><b>To: </b>"Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria" <<a href="mailto:GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es">GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es</a>>, Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Gema</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Which clause in the RAA stipulates this?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>I’m looking at the 2013 RAA’s proxy / privacy specification and I cannot see this.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Michele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Blacknight Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Hosting & Colocation, Domains</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'><a href="http://www.blacknight.co/">http://www.blacknight.co/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'><a href="http://blog.blacknight.com/">http://blog.blacknight.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'><a href="http://www.technology.ie">http://www.technology.ie</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Locall: 1850 929 929</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Fax. +353 (0) 1 4811 763</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mneylon">http://twitter.com/mneylon</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>-------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'>From:</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-IE'><a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Marika Konings<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes, I´ve seen this, Marika, but it only defines “relay” and in a very confusing way, mixing it with “reveal”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>5) Relay Information Requests</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>See study # 20 for this term’s use in context.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Problems arise from time to time in connection with registered names. Allegations of</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>actionable harm require copyright and trademark owners, law enforcement officials and</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>others to be able to operate through a proxy or privacy service provider to contact the</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>domain name user. Potential “harms” could include suspected fraud, intellectual property</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>rights infringement, or the infringement of other civil or criminal laws. To support the</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>relay of information requests, service providers must have reliable and timely means of</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>communicating with their domain licensees.<b> The ICANN Registrar Accreditation</b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Agreement stipulates that the proxy registrant reveal the identity of the domain licensee</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>upon reasonable evidence of actionable harm or risk liability for resulting harm.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So, I insist definitions of “relay”, “reveal” and “publication” are included in the “Grouping of Charter Questions” paper or else, referenced to a document that provides its meaning in the context of Proxy-Privacy Services. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you again and best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ES'>Gema</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Marika Konings [<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">mailto:marika.konings@icann.org</a>] <br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 11 de febrero de 2014 13:16<br><b>Para:</b> Campillos Gonzalez, Gema Maria<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'>Dear Gema,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'>I think that refers to the attached document which is also posted on the WG wiki (background documents – see <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/XSWfAg">https://community.icann.org/x/XSWfAg</a>).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'>Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES>From: </span></b><span lang=ES>"<Campillos Gonzalez>", Gema Maria <<a href="mailto:GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es">GCAMPILLOS@minetur.es</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday 11 February 2014 12:50<br><b>To: </b>Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>definitions of relay, publication, reveal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Dear Marika, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Where exactly can I find the definitions for the terms in the heading? In footnote 7 of the “Grouping of Charter Questions” paper, there is a reference to the “Terms of Reference for GNSO Whois Studies (refer to WG Background Documents).”, but I am not able to find that document. Could you please point me to the paper I have to look up? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Thank you so much, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ES'>Gema </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Volker A. 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