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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tuesday 04 March 2014 <span style='color:black'>at 15:00 UTC at:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140304-en.mp3"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140304-en.mp3</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar%23mar"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Luc Seufer - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Volker Greimann - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Graeme Bunton – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Tim Ruiz – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sarah Wyld </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>– RrSG<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>David Heasley - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>James Bladel - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Steve Metalitz - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kathy Kleiman – RySGgr<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Justin Macy - BC</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Darcy Southwell - RrSG</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Alex Deacon - IPC</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Todd Williams – IPC</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Don Blumenthal - RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Libby Baney - BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Phil Marano – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jim Bikoff – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Griffin Barnett - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Roy Balleste – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amr Elsadr - NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>David Cake - NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Valeriya Sherman – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Marie-Laure Lemineur – NPOC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>John Horton – BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Stephanie Perrin – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Michele Neylon – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Jennifer Standiford – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Carlton Samuels – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Maria Farrell – NCUC <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span 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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mailing list archives:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tuesday 04 March <span style='color:black'>2014:<o:p></o:p></span></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting on 04 March 2014<span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:Hi Mary, hi Terri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Hello Volker<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Welcome, Volker!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:can you turn on microphone connection on the adobe?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nathalie Peregrine:Apologies Volker, done now!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:Hi All!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Welcome everyone; good morning/afternoon/evening all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Nathalie Peregrine:Marie-Laure Lemineur and Michele Neylon have joined the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:FYI we have "un-sync'ed" the slides so you can scroll up and down on your own screen using the arrow keys.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Jim Bikoff has joined audio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:David Cake has joined audio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Amr Elsadr has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Kiran Malancharuvil has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Jennifer Standiford has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:Tx you Volker!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Can anyone hear him?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Yes - are you able to, Michele?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:I can<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:hmmm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:I'll dial in<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Michele - Let me know if you need us to dial out to you<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:yup, we do that too, left that out<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Michele - I don't see your mic is active on adobe connect<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:Tx you Graeme!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:If anyone is interested, our service is located at whoisproxy.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Terri - I didn't want to speak<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Amr Elsadr::)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:Our terms are here: <a href="https://contactprivacy.com/?action=wp_mailer_show_terms">https://contactprivacy.com/?action=wp_mailer_show_terms</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:thx James<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:Tx James!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Amr Elsadr:Thanks James.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:DBP Terms of Service: <a href="https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/policy/ShowDoc.aspx?pageid=domain_nameproxy">https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/policy/ShowDoc.aspx?pageid=domain_nameproxy</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Libby Baney:Thanks to all speakers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Hi everbyody<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Carlton I have you noted on attendance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Thks Terri. Apologies for late connection; intervening priority needed attention<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kiran Malancharuvil:Steve, I Can barely hear you, can you speak up? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:Sorry, but can't hear you Steve.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:Can Steve speak up please?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:can't hear Steve<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kiran Malancharuvil:I think maybe someone else isn't on mute? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Yes, much better<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kiran Malancharuvil:better<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:I am asking op to increase his volume <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:I can answer Steve<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:we're not obliged to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:not sure what he's asking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:we are obliged to check email or phone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:under 2013<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:(we aren't on 2013)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:this is how we handleit <a href="http://help.eurodns.com/customer/portal/articles/1439035-what-is-the-contact-validation-policy-">http://help.eurodns.com/customer/portal/articles/1439035-what-is-the-contact-validation-policy-</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:(we don't offer p/p services ourselves)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:@Volker: To be sure, IF there is a problem with the domain in your case it is the registrar that initiaites contact with the registrant of record, not the p/p provider?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:also, to be clear, we don't offer our service to other registrars. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:Domains need to be in OpenSRS<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Not applicable in Arizona. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:QUESTION for James, Volker, Graeme: Are Whois rdata eminders sent annually to p/p cusomters, and if so by whom (registrar or p/pp provider).? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Good question, I'll have to check that one.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Libby Baney:Stephanie - could you share a cite to the Canada law you mentioned?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:Sure, I will do it via email if that is ok....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:Sorry for typos: "customer" and "p/p provider" <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Libby Baney:Thanks, that'd be great!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:Steve - i am reasonably sure they are sent to p/p customers, and I believe that they are sent by the registrar<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:will confirm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:+1 Michele<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Amr Elsadr:+1 Michele. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Libby Baney:Question to Volker -- you mentioned your service finds it an abuse of the service for use of domains for commercial purposes. May I ask, how do you define "commercial" in this context?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:only .cat and .tel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:in gtlds<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:@Volker...given current sentiment about global privacy, seems like a good time to take a few cases to Court. :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:hinted?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:German understatement at its finest<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Amr Elsadr:Isn't there the ICANN procedure for handling whois conflict with privacy laws? Why don't registrars use it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:@Michele: The ICANN response has always been the registrant makes an agreement to publish when they buy the domain. The question has always been informed consent and whether it is given. Have to say in support of what you say we now have a better understanding of the relationship between data privacy law and WHOIS. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Amr - it's broken<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Carlton - it needs to be fixed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:The devil will skate to work before that happens<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:(ICANN looking into privacy)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:This is how we are dealing that<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:The Customer understands and accepts that in the case of denial of the disclosure specified herein, the Domain Name Service cannot be provided and that any request to delete the Personal Data after the registration of the Domain Name will automatically entail the deletion of the Domain Name.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:@Michele: No question about that! And a holistic fix is the preferred approach<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Amr Elsadr:@Michele: I hope you can explain to me why it's broken some time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:I have started on the surveymonkey, but it just never ends...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:hi all, sorry to be joining for the last few minutes. IETF week in London coinciding with Too Much Work!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:same as Volker. I'll need to open a good bottle of wine and sit down for 2 hours to complete it. ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:@Carlton, agreed....and sorry to repeat the harangue I have been on in the EWG, but in Canada that would be a coerced consent, and not acceptable under 4.3.3 of the Schedule to the Act<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Amr - it's very simple, - look at the current process - read it and if you can't see why it's broken I can explain it :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Amr Elsadr:OK. Thanks Michele. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:@Kathy, what is missing from the B.1 summary? As distinct from B.2 where there has been a lot of list activity re B.2. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:@stephanie you are welcome to register a .fr domain name where your right to privacy will be respected. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:until ICANN acknowledges local laws, ccTLDs are the way to go.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:She can't register a .fr or a .eu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:due to nexus requirements<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:stop teasing her!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy Kleiman:My concern is much more for the next table we look at...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:This template is similar to what has been used to collate, review and respond to public comments by other WGs. We most definitely will include ALL responses received for the WG to review again.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:I am ready to act as proxy for her !<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Maria Farrell has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:@Luc, maybe I will register the french versions of my domains there, thanks:-)...or move to Tucows and drive Graeme nuts with complaints.....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Need to drop, thanks everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:@Stephanie I can recommend lots of wonderful other registrars.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:Need to go. Thanks Don an all!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:I support the idea of talking to cc's - they have a variety of approaches to these things, though luckily only one set of laws to comply with !<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Graeme Bunton:Blacknight for example would love to have your domains.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@Maria +1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:Michele yo uhave all my hosting already!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Maria - )<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon::)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Volker Greimann:thank you Mary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:thanks everyone. talk next week. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:@ Maria apparently you are not complaining enough<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kiran Malancharuvil:thanks Don. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:heehee luc<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Justin Macy:bye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:bye<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Great discussion<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Grist for the EWG mill<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Thanks everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>