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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tx Mary! <br>
      Kathy<br>
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          <div>The WG wiki has been updated accordingly; you will find
            the previously-uploaded version of the template for Category
            B Question 2 (for which there is lively ongoing discussion
            on the list) as of 17 March; and a further updated version
            for Category B Question 3 (updated with the new NCSG
            submissions as stated in Kathy's email): <a
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          <div>We hope they will be useful for your reference and the
            call later today.</div>
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          <div>Cheers</div>
          <div>Mary</div>
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            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                  class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Mary Wong</font></font></div>
            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                  class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Senior Policy
                  Director</font></font></div>
            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                  class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Internet
                  Corporation for Assigned Names &amp; Numbers (ICANN)</font></font></div>
            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                  class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Telephone: +1
                  603 574 4892</font></font></div>
            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                  class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Email:
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a></font></font></div>
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            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                  class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">* One World.
                  One Internet. *</font></font></div>
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            style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Marika Konings &lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, March
          18, 2014 6:00 PM<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Kathy Kleiman &lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>&gt;,
          "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
          &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
          [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - template Category B -
          question 3<br>
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              <div>Please find attached the updated template with the
                additional NCSG comments incorporated.</div>
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              <div>Best regards,</div>
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              <div>Marika</div>
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                  PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From:
                  </span>Kathy Kleiman &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>&gt;<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday
                  18 March 2014 04:39<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a
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                    href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
                  [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - template
                  Category B - question 3<br>
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                      Hi All,<br>
                      In answering our newest question, Category
                      B-question 3, I would ask that an expansion of the
                      NCSG comments be included in the summary of
                      comments received. NCSG has now commented
                      extensively on rights a domain name registrant
                      should have when using a proxy/privacy service --
                      and our focus has been on two aspects (although
                      there are more to discuss), namely: a) access to
                      proxy/privacy services, and b) due process in the
                      limitation and/or termination of these services. 
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Access: NCSG submits that in the gTLD system, p/p
                      is a needed and legitimate service for
                      noncommercial organizations, including public
                      interest groups, religious groups, educational
                      organization, charities, and hobby groups, as well
                      as individuals, entrepreneurs and small
                      businesses. We would like to see that right of
                      access protected and ensured.<br>
                      <br>
                      Due Process: NCSG submits that the p/p customer
                      should be assured of the right to engage in a
                      dialogue with the proxy/privacy service provider
                      before contact data is released or published (when
                      legally allowed), and given the opportunity to
                      show if the request for contact data is intended
                      to to harm, harass, damage competition or diminish
                      Freedom of Expression or Assembly rights. Further,
                      the NSCG comments discussed (as reflected in the
                      current template) the importance of allowing
                      Registrars to follow their national laws and
                      practices and incorporate the <font
                        face="Calibri"><font style="font-size: 11pt"
                          size="2">privacy, data protection and due
                          process of ther laws into their p/p contracts
                          with customers.  What is illegal in one
                          country is not illegal in another country --
                          be it speech activities, religious activities,
                          political activities or even comparative
                          advertising (in which a particular product or
                          service specifically mentions a competitor by
                          name for the express purpose of showing why
                          the competitor is inferior to the product
                          naming it). These robust differences must be
                          taking into account when drafting a general
                          set of accreditation principles for rights and
                          responsibilities of Registrants.<br>
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                          face="Calibri">We respectfully submit there
                          are many rights, as well as responsibilities,
                          to consider in this question tomorrow... and
                          look forward to the discussion.
                          <br>
                          Best,<br>
                          Kathy<br>
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                        </font></font>Dear All,</div>
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                        Calibri, sans-serif; ">In preparation for our
                        meeting tomorrow, please find attached the
                        proposed template for Category B – question 3 (<span
                          style="font-family: Calibri; "><i>What rights
                            and responsibilities should domain name
                            registrants that use privacy/proxy services
                            have? What obligations should
                            ICANN-accredited privacy/proxy service
                            providers have in managing these rights and
                            responsibilities? Clarify how transfers,
                            renewals, and PEDNR policies should apply.)
                          </i>If there is any additional information
                          that should be added to the background
                          section, please let me know.</span></div>
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                      <div>In relation to transfers, renewals and PEDNR
                        policies, we've started to develop a list of
                        questions that the WG may need to consider
                        in relation to these policies. If there are any
                        additional questions that should be included,
                        please feel free to suggest. We are hoping that
                        some of the registrar members will be able to
                        shed a light on how these issues are currently
                        handled and whether or not these need to be
                        factored into the WG recommendations.</div>
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                          <li>Per the ERRP, 'registrars must notify the
                            registered name holder of the expiration at
                            least two times'. Should there be a
                            requirement for the P/P provider to pass
                            these notices on to the P/P customer? 
                          </li>
                          <li>Per the ERRP, 'if a registration is not
                            renewed by the RAE or deleted by the
                            registrar, within five days after the
                            expiration of the registration, the
                            registrar must transmit at least one
                            additional expiration notice to the RAE that
                            includes instructions for renewing the
                            registration'. Should there be a requirement
                            for the P/P provider to pass these notices
                            on to the P/P customer?
                          </li>
                          <li>Per the ERRP, 'beginning at the time of
                            expiration and through the <abbr
                              title="Domain Name System">DNS</abbr> resolution
                            interruption period described in paragraphs
                            2.2.2 and 2.2.3, the RAE must be permitted
                            by the registrar to renew the expired
                            registration'. What if the underlying
                            customer wants to renew the registration?
                            Idem for restoration during the Redemption
                            Grace Period.
                          </li>
                          <li>In relation to the IRTP, should there be
                            any restrictions concerning transfers of P/P
                            registrations? (e.g. some of the terms and
                            conditions require the P/P services to be
                            removed during the transfer process).
                            Depending on the response to this question,
                            all communications in the IRTP currently go
                            via the transfer contact (Registered Name
                            Holder / Admin Contact). Should there be any
                            requirements for this information to also be
                            communicated to the P/P customer? What
                            happens if there is a disagreement relating
                            to the transfer between the P/P provider and
                            the P/P customer? </li>
                        </ul>
                        <div>Best regards,</div>
                        <div><br>
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                        <div>Marika</div>
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