<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Kathy, that is what the preliminary recommendation currently says so your proposed footnote appears to be a duplication? The footnote that was added per the suggestion of Steve just clarifies that the support for this preliminary recommendation (to validate and verify in a manner consistent with the 2013 RAA requirements) may need to be revisited following the outcome of the deliberations on the other charter questions.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Marika</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Monday 14 April 2014 18:00<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>, Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "Metalitz, Steven" <<a href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - revised template Category B -question 2<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Marika,<br>
In light of Volker and Stephanie's point, perhaps a similar footnote would be valuable in Cat B- ques 2 reflecting that:
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[footnote] Others across several SG groups voiced support (over several discussions) for a standard in which verification and validation of p/p registration would not exceed that required of current domain name registrations under the 2013 RAA -- for many reasons,
including those listed above. <br><br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br><br></div><blockquote cite="mid:FC6E8FE3-E9FE-458C-9D1E-5B0E440EFBB0@mail.utoronto.ca" type="cite">
I too unfortunately missed that call, and as I indicated previously, I don't find this fair. It presumes guilt on the part of proxy customers.
<div>Stephanie P<br><div><div>On 2014-04-14, at 9:52 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Hi Steve,<br><br>
as I missed that call, was that number of members in any way qualified or multi-stakeholder or was it just a voice from a certain part of the community. If so, any comment to that effect (if it were to be included) should also include the origin of that opinion.<br><br>
Volker<br><br><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.04.2014 15:45, schrieb Metalitz, Steven:<br></div><blockquote cite="mid:E5B4A2ED43DFAE4F9E710FA54FEF8F622959C452@LAEX02.MSK.local" type="cite"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi Marika,
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I believe that at the beginning of the April 8 call there was discussion about including in the preliminary conclusion on Question B-2 the view of a number
of members of the WG that the minimum verification or validation standards for accredited services would need to exceed those applicable to non-proxy registrations, but that this view could be affected by the outcome of discussions regarding relay and reveal
requirements (e.g., re the speed of reveal). It does not appear that the template for question B-2 has been supplemented to reflect this discussion. Could staff please do so? Thanks.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Steve Metalitz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">
gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 10, 2014 4:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - revised template Category B - question 3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Following our call on Tuesday, please find attached the updated template for Cat B – Q 3 which aims to capture the main points of discussion as well as a proposed preliminary conclusion based
on the deliberations to date ('</span><span style="font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif"">The WG recommends that any rights, responsibilities and obligations for registrants as well as privacy/proxy providers would need to be clearly
communicated in the registration agreement, including any specific requirements applying to transfers and renewals. However, further details as to what minimum requirements for such rights, responsibilities and obligations may be will need to be further discussed
by the WG following its review of other charter questions'). If I've missed anything or you have any proposed edits, feel free to share your suggestions with the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">As noted during the call, further input and discussion will be required in relation to the second part of the charter question: clarify how transfers, renewals,
and PEDNR policies should apply? Below you will find our initial attempt to identify some of the questions that may need to be addressed in this regard. We hope that WG members, and especially registrars, will be able to add to this list and/or provide some
initial thoughts and suggestions. We'll kick off the meeting next week with a short introduction to the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP), but in the meantime you may already want to review this presentation that was provided by James Bladel for one of
the IRTP WGs (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/meetings/presentation-irtp-c-training-29nov11-en.pdf"><span style="background:white">Powerpoint</span></a><span style="background:white">, </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/transcript-irtp-c-training-29nov11-en.pdf"><span style="background:white">Transcript</span></a><span style="background:white"> and </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-irtp-c-training-20111129-en.mp3"><span style="background:white">MP3-Recording</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Marika Konings <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday 17 March 2014 12:40<br><b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] For your review - template Category B - question 3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">In preparation for our meeting tomorrow, please find attached the proposed template for Category B – question 3 (<i>What rights and responsibilities should domain
name registrants that use privacy/proxy services have? What obligations should ICANN-accredited privacy/proxy service providers have in managing these rights and responsibilities? Clarify how transfers, renewals, and PEDNR policies should apply.)
</i>If there is any additional information that should be added to the background section, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">In relation to transfers, renewals and PEDNR policies, we've started to develop a list of questions that the WG may need to consider in relation to these policies.
If there are any additional questions that should be included, please feel free to suggest. We are hoping that some of the registrar members will be able to shed a light on how these issues are currently handled and whether or not these need to be factored
into the WG recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Per the ERRP, 'registrars must notify the registered name holder of the expiration at least two times'. Should there be a requirement for the P/P provider to pass these notices on to the P/P
customer? <o:p></o:p></span> </li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Per the ERRP, 'if a registration is not renewed by the RAE or deleted by the registrar, within five days after the expiration of the registration, the registrar must transmit at least one additional
expiration notice to the RAE that includes instructions for renewing the registration'. Should there be a requirement for the P/P provider to pass these notices on to the P/P customer?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Per the ERRP, 'beginning at the time of expiration and through the DNS resolution interruption period described in paragraphs 2.2.2 and 2.2.3, the RAE must be permitted by the registrar to renew
the expired registration'. What if the underlying customer wants to renew the registration? Idem for restoration during the Redemption Grace Period.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">In relation to the IRTP, should there be any restrictions concerning transfers of P/P registrations? (e.g. some of the terms and conditions require the P/P services to be removed during the transfer
process). Depending on the response to this question, all communications in the IRTP currently go via the transfer contact (Registered Name Holder / Admin Contact). Should there be any requirements for this information to also be communicated to the P/P customer?
What happens if there is a disagreement relating to the transfer between the P/P provider and the P/P customer?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br><pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
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