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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tuesday 15 April 2014 at 14:00 UTC at:<span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140415-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20140415-en.mp3</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On page: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar%23mar"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'>apr</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Attendees:</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Luc Seufer - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Graeme Bunton – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Tim Ruiz – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Steve Metalitz - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kathy Kleiman – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Darcy Southwell - RrSG</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Libby Baney - BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Roy Balleste – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Susan Prosser – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Justin Macy – BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jim Bikoff – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>David Heasley – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Michele Neylon – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Jennifer Standiford – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>James Bladel – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Volker Greimann – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Carlton Samuels – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Maria Farrell – NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Paul McGrady – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Tobias Sattler – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Phil Marano – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Christain Dawson – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Laura Jedeed – BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Don Blumenthal – RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Griffin Barnett – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gema Campillos – GAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Stephanie Perrin – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Valeriya Sherman – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Frank Michlick - RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Apologies:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kristina Rosette – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Sarah Wyld </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>– RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Holly Raiche – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Marie-Laure Lemineur – NPOC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Amr Elsadr <span style='color:#1F497D'>–</span> NCUC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Joe Catapano -Staff<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Amy Bivins<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mike Zupke<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Mailing list archives:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span></u></b><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Tuesday 15 April 2014:</span></u></b> Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 15 April 2014<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing>Marika Konings:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 15 April 2014<span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Osvaldo Novoa:Hello everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:Good morning Osvaldo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Hello All. Good morning<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Maria I have you on attendance list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> maria farrell:Thanks so much, Terri.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Susan Prosser has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Jennifer Standiford has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:Good morning. Sorry to be a little late.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Hi Tim, I have you on attendance list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Volker Greimann has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Tobias Sattler has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tobias Sattler:Sorry for being late.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:bah. No biggy it's just another Baldel presentation<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Well you'd need to have the key before you place the order with us<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:no key => no order<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:same at EuroDNS. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:GD being Special <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tatiana Khramtsova:RU-CENTER procedure is the same as GD<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:Sorry for losing sight of the queue also. I've been entertained by the presentation but also the chat.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Re Kathy's question - please see the last question on the right side (in the Notes pod).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Phil Marano has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Frank Michlick:Show of hands, who tries to transfer/parse thin registry information?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Frank Michlick:(whois information that is)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:These were some additional questions that had been circulated to the WG list some time ago in the hope of generating some information/discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:thick whois solves a lot of this<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:For your convenience, this is the relevant IRTP question: In relation to the IRTP, should there be any restrictions concerning transfers of P/P registrations? (e.g. some of the terms and conditions require the P/P services to be removed during the transfer process). Depending on the response to this question, all communications in the IRTP currently go via the transfer contact (Registered Name Holder / Admin Contact). Should there be any requirements for this information to also be communicated to the P/P customer? What happens if there is a disagreement relating to the transfer between the P/P provider and the P/P customer?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:Could someone explain further how thick Whois would help the problem of needing to exit the service before transfer? The thcik Whois would have the same data as the registrar has in a thin environment. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:Yes. transfers between registrars is not reliable in thin registries. Came up before and Thick registreies with EPP is the answer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:"valid key" = authinfo code?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Yes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Tx!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Interesting, tx you Volker!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:As far as I know, only two reistry operators are on the WG, PIR and Rightside.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Are we done with slides? I think we might be done. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Can we continue through the slides? They are very valuable!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:James asked for questions at the strart. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Is there a way to create a footnote in our materials to revisit these issues when we reach the Relay questions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:@Kathy, we were hoping that the transfer/renewal-specific questions posted in the Notes pod (and circulated previously) can be discussed here so that we can incorporate them into the template.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@Steve, Thick registries would have to add that option to their data collection and that puts that data in yet another entities hands. So it might not be ideal for all users seeking privacy in all situations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:(as part of Cat B Q3, second half of that question)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:In addition, the entire transfer process would have to change for those transfers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:The Thick Registry would have the P/P provider information not the underlying privacy client data<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:So my question is: how do we deal with transfers in p/p setting WITHOUT having to also initiate a transfer PDP to deal with the process changes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@Michele, those are enforcement issues. If ICANN cannot enforce its policies, then we are all wasting our time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:@Tim, our suggestion is for this WG to come up with some suggestions (per the questions on the right). These can then be evaluated against the current transfer processes (and IRTP implementation) to see if there are any potential conflicts or problems.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:If someone has the authcode, why is anything else necessary? The underlying user gets the authcode from the p/p provider and provides that to the new registrar. Once the valid authcode is presented to the registry it allows the transfer.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Gema Campillos has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@Kathy. Exactly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:@Tim, this assumes that the proxy provide associated with the losing registrar is obligated to cooperate with the transfer process. It sounds as though that is not the status quo. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@Steve, but that's the kind of thing we are here to change, right?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:My apologies for being late. Netmundial seems to rule life these days.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:unless you sign in blood it's not 100% secure tbh<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Stephanie I have added you to attendance list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Paul McGrady:Apologies, but I need to leave the call early today due to another committment. Thank you for this presentation and all of the important issues it raises for our consideration.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:Tim, is the point about a losing registrar a general Rr conduct problem or relatred to p/p issues?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Don - p/p more than anything probably . <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:or maybe I'm missing the context <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Val Sherman has joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:Or I missed the point of something. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Why was Frank Michlick kicked off Adobe??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:@Michele, he is not a member of this WG and did not respond to several messages asking for clarification.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:he's on the list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:The WG mailing list? I will need to check in with him then about membership and an SOI.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:please do<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:I will, thanks, Michele.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:He's crying over IM here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:it's very sad<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:grown German crying<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:We have a limit on the number of Canadians (and assimilated) we can have on the same working group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Please let him know we're sorry if there was a mistake but we don't have him on the membership list and we sent several private messages without response.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:Mary - he probably can't see them<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@james, could you describe that problem?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:@Michele, they were PMs in this Adobe room :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@James, I think its called email ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Terri Agnew:Stephanie please check your mute<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:Are we going to address the questions on right hand side? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:I think we have a number of points to return to in later discussions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:@Steve that would be our recommendation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:Sorry, mic not working . I just wanted to follow up on the remark citing mikey about how much is loaded on the auth code.....what exactly does that do to its reliability?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:Steve, Thanks. I often lose sight of the notes panel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Stephanie<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:The last question in the Notes pad is specific to IRTP. where the others are more relevant to ERRP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:PEDNR PSTD<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Interesting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:Thanks Michele. How woudl this be handled in the case of an accrdited proxy service provider that is not affiliated wtih the registrar? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:+1 Tim - this makes a lot of sense - and seems to hold the keys to a resolution of the issues we are wrestlin gwith<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Don, before we leave the document, could Mary perhaps describes any recent updates to it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:OK<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:@Kathy, we added your suggestion of yesterday - you'll see it in the second column as displayed here.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:Whatdoes RAE mean in the 2d and 3d questions on right of screen? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Don Blumenthal:Remember to scroll down. Adobe session participants control the screen when templates are up<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Registration At Expiration I believe.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Michele Neylon:correct<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Tx you! (text is coming out very small... maybe time for new glasses :-))<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Oops, sorry, RegistRANT at Expiration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:but from their REGISTRAR?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:"vigorously" is right!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:@James re forwarding...I think this is a key question, as Michele is pointing out. That list should be limited and specific in my view, as Michele is pointing out....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:Failure to relay unsoliciated emails from 3rd parties means the P/P service is working.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:@STephanie which list?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:@Stephanie, anything related to their domain name that is critical, renewals, transfers, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:@James, and thanks for tthe clarification re the auth code...that helps. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:@Michele interesting piece of info<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel::)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:that's ICANN.....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:makes sense, Michele, but the operational emails from Registrars being passed on makes sense - I think Registrants want these!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> steve metalitz:excellent presentation and discussion today<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Tim Ruiz:Thanks James and Don and all! Bye.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Kathy K:Tx All!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Stephanie Perrin:indeed, excellent presentation and slides! thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Carlton Samuels:@James: Thanks for the presentation! Very helpful to reinforce some stuff<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Mary Wong:Thank you all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Bladel:thx Don & team.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Phil Marano:Thank you <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing> Luc Seufer:THanks all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>