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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">To follow-up to Volker's email, this is
      right around the time I start getting very confused. Because as
      there are policies for certain types of commercial disclosures --
      in some countries at some times and on some webpages -- there are
      also policies across the world that protect small businesses,
      entrepreneurs, women-owned small businesses, senior-owned small
      businesses, noncommercial organizations (large and small)
      nongovernmental organizations (large and small), and individuals
      from having to disclose their names and addresses to the wider
      world. To encourage the development of organizations and
      businesses, and the robust expression of ideas, countries have
      policies that protect and defend these activities -- even if, as
      Volker points you, you happen to sell a bumper sticker. <br>
      <br>
      I would also add that we found in a recent Whois study that even
      banks -- legitimate banks -- register their domain names through
      proxy/privacy services. My guess is that there are parts of the
      world, perhaps some badly in need of commercial loans and small
      business transactions, where you would not want to list a name for
      and the address of a bank publicly. In light of recent
      kidnappings, I think I can think of such places... unfortunately.<br>
      <br>
      IMHO, I hardly think this this type of content-oriented,
      purpose-driven process is one that is appropriate for the narrow
      scope and purpose of ICANN.&nbsp; As the paper points out, this is a
      place for national law - and therein lies the balance of
      expression, commercial, and societal goals and objectives.<br>
      <br>
      Best,<br>
      Kathy<br>
      <br>
      :<br>
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      Hi John,<br>
      <br>
      the problem is that commercial use is a very wide scope. Some
      courts have held that providing space for Google Ads on your
      private blog can be held to be commercial use. Or if I linked to
      an ebay auction I set up and mentioned that in my blog, it could
      be construed to be commercially used. Does that mean I lose my
      right to use a privacy service?<br>
      <br>
      What about little work-from-home shops selling self-made stuff
      online? Do they really have to put their home address on their
      domain? If I were an activist for religion (or lack thereof),
      womens rights, abotrion, death penalty and sell stickers promoting
      my cause in a small webshop, do I suddenly have to tell every
      nutter out there where I live?<br>
      <br>
      While I agree that there may be abuse of the services provided by
      whois privacy, I do not agree that commercial activity is where we
      should draw the line. Illegal activity using such services is what
      needs to be prohibited, nothing else.<br>
      <br>
      Best,<br>
      <br>
      Volker<br>
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            I think it's important to note that nobody is currently
            proposing that commercial entities shouldn't be allowed to
            use p/p services. (Put aside the text in Bob's email,
            because I am guessing that is not what he actually meant.
            Anyway, it's not what's proposed in the paper.) Rather, the
            proposal is that p/p services should not be allowed for
            domain names <u>used for commercial purposes</u>. The
            status of the registrant as a registered business, or as an
            individual, is irrelevant. For some specific discussion on
            this point, I'd encourage you to review pages 8-9 of the
            document that Libby disseminated.&nbsp;</div>
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            style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#073763">To

            your specific point, pre-launch trademark searching and
            clearance wouldn't be "using the domain name" for
            "commercial activity" as it's contemplated. To be precise,
            the registrant might be engaged in commercial activity in
            other ways, but <u>not involving the use of the domain name</u>.
            &nbsp;The idea is that if a website is actually selling goods and
            services, either via the domain name or some website that it
            points to (e.g., all of the product are listed at <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://example.com"
              target="_blank">example.com</a>, but it points to <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://paypal.com"
              target="_blank">paypal.com</a> for transactions), that
            would be a commercial <u>use</u>&nbsp;of a domain name. If
            you've just registered a domain name in preparation for the
            launch of a new brand or product line, but the domain name
            isn't actually transacting business, I don't think it's
            commercial <u>use</u>. We're talking about situations where
            you select a product, put it in your cart, pull out your
            credit card, and conduct a financial transaction, and I'd
            argue that Internet users have the right to an accurate,
            transparent Whois record at that point in time. In any case,
            I think that these issues are discussed in more detail in
            the document, and in particular, pages 8-9.&nbsp;</div>
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            style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#073763">Let

            me answer your earlier question about <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://medsindia.com"
              target="_blank">medsindia.com</a>. But first, let me first
            point out that in numerous cases where we've submitted
            evidence to registrars about rogue Internet pharmacies, they
            respond, "We unfortunately cannot take any action unless you
            prove that the Whois record is inaccurate." (Put aside for a
            moment any disagreement with this response [I do not think
            it's accurate]; the point is that it's a common response by
            some, although not all, registrars.)</div>
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            style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#073763">So,

            to your question, there are two possibilities:</div>
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            <ol style="">
              <li style=""><font color="#073763" face="arial, helvetica,
                  sans-serif">The domain name is accurately registered.
                  Great; now, perhaps, law enforcement or the courts can
                  take action as appropriate.&nbsp;</font></li>
              <li style=""><font color="#073763" face="arial, helvetica,
                  sans-serif">Or, it's a falsified or inaccurate Whois.
                  Even if it takes a little leg work, the inaccurate
                  nature of the Whois information can be established,
                  and a WDPRS complaint can be submitted. Either the
                  Whois is corrected, or it isn't and the domain name is
                  suspended.&nbsp;</font></li>
            </ol>
            <div><font color="#073763" face="arial, helvetica,
                sans-serif">In other words, if some registrars say, "The
                only enforcement mechanism we're going to recognize
                against domain names is a) a court order in our
                jurisdiction, or b) a false Whois," <u>medsindia</u>.com
                is an example where all options are off the table. As
                explained, Canadian law enforcement has no jurisdiction
                because Canada is the one country where the drugs aren't
                shipped to; and a WDPRS is off the table because there's
                no way to prove the Whois is falsified -- it's behind a
                p/p service.&nbsp;</font></div>
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                sans-serif"><br>
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            <div><font color="#073763" face="arial, helvetica,
                sans-serif">Hope that helps!</font></div>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font color="#073763" face="arial,
                  helvetica, sans-serif">John Horton<br>
                  President, LegitScript</font>
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                          color="#ff9900"><u><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:37 AM,
              McGrady, Paul D. <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com" target="_blank">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi
                Kiran,<br>
                <br>
                I'm not sure how pre-launch trademark searching and
                clearance isn't &nbsp;a commercial activity. &nbsp;Further, Bob's
                email said: &nbsp;"This is one of the reasons for keeping
                whois data public for commercial entities." &nbsp;There is a
                big difference between excluding proxy services for
                commercial entities vs excluding proxy services for
                websites that resolve and contain commercial content
                ("This is one of the reasons for keeping whois data
                public for commercial entities.").<br>
                <br>
                What is actually being proposed?<br>
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                  Best,<br>
                  Paul<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  -----Original Message-----<br>
                  From: Kiran Malancharuvil [mailto:<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a>]<br>
                </div>
                <div class="HOEnZb">
                  <div class="h5">Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:31 AM<br>
                    To: McGrady, Paul D.<br>
                    Cc: John Horton; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                    Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Commercial Use -
                    White Paper<br>
                    <br>
                    Paul, we've discussed that as well. With the input
                    from several of our clients that engage in this as a
                    best practice, we understand that a pre-launch
                    website would be able to utilize p/p because it is
                    not yet engaging in commercial activity. Once the
                    product/service goes live and is an active offering,
                    it can drop the veil so-to-speak.<br>
                    <br>
                    K<br>
                    <br>
                    Kiran Malancharuvil<br>
                    Internet Policy Counselor<br>
                    MarkMonitor<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:415-419-9138"
                      value="+14154199138">415-419-9138</a>&nbsp;(m)<br>
                    <br>
                    Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.<br>
                    <br>
                    &gt; On May 12, 2014, at 5:27 PM, "McGrady, Paul D."
                    &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>&gt;

                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Thanks Kiran. &nbsp;Thanks Bob.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; The other side of the balancing act on this is,
                    of course, the legitimate need for commercial
                    entities to have access to proxy services. &nbsp;For
                    example, a brand owner who is trying to roll out a
                    new brand and attempting to secure the corresponding
                    domain names in advance of their first trademark
                    filing in order to cut down on the amount of
                    cybersquatting.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Best,<br>
                    &gt; Paul<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                    &gt; From: Kiran Malancharuvil [mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a>]<br>
                    &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:25 AM<br>
                    &gt; To: McGrady, Paul D.<br>
                    &gt; Cc: John Horton; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                    &gt; Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Commercial Use
                    - White Paper<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Paul,<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Agree with Bob. No one expects them to be
                    honest but with the new verification requirements,
                    they will lose the domain name.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; K<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Kiran Malancharuvil<br>
                    &gt; Internet Policy Counselor<br>
                    &gt; MarkMonitor<br>
                    &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:415-419-9138" value="+14154199138">415-419-9138</a>
                    (m)<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; On May 12, 2014, at 4:58 PM, "McGrady, Paul D."
                    &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>&gt;&gt;

                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; John,<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Setting aside for a moment the specific example
                    below, the part I don't completely understand is why
                    we think that a domain name owner who is using the
                    domain name for a blatantly illegal purpose without
                    regard for the law will somehow be inclined to
                    provide accurate information in their WHOIS records
                    if they are not allowed to contract for a proxy
                    service.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Thanks in advance for your thoughts.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Best,<br>
                    &gt; Paul<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Paul D. McGrady Jr.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Partner<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Chair, Trademark, Domain Names and Brand
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                    &gt; From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&lt;mailto:<a
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                    [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                    On Behalf Of John Horton<br>
                    &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:40 AM<br>
                    &gt; To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&lt;mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    &gt; Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Commercial Use
                    - White Paper<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Hi all,<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Following up on the white paper that Libby
                    Baney just circulated, and as we wrap up our
                    discussion regarding distinguishing between
                    commercial and non-commercial use, I thought it
                    might be helpful to provide a concrete example of a
                    domain name that (I trust we can all agree) is being
                    used for commercial purposes. Perhaps we can
                    collectively think through whether it makes sense
                    for this domain name to be afforded privacy
                    protection. For simplicity, I am only using one
                    domain name as an example, but there are thousands
                    like this in our database alone. I hope that a
                    concrete example will be helpful to the discussion.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Let's take the domain name <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://medsindia.com"
                      target="_blank">medsindia.com</a>&lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://medsindia.com"
                      target="_blank">http://medsindia.com</a>&gt;.
                    First, as you can verify with a Whois query, it is
                    using proxy/privacy services.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Registrant Name: General (c/o Rebel.com&lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://Rebel.com"
                      target="_blank">http://Rebel.com</a>&gt; Privacy
                    Service) Registrant Organization: Private Domain
                    Services Registrant Street: 300-12 York Street
                    Registrant City: Ottawa Registrant State/Province:
                    ON Registrant Postal Code: K1N 5S6 Registrant
                    Country: CA Registrant Phone: <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:%2B1.866-497-3235" value="+18664973235">+1.866-497-3235</a>&lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="tel:%2B1">tel:%2B1</a>.<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:866-497-3235"
                      value="+18664973235">866-497-3235</a>&gt;<br>
                    &gt; Registrant Phone Ext:<br>
                    &gt; Registrant Fax:<br>
                    &gt; Registrant Fax Ext:<br>
                    &gt; Registrant Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:IVP1JQKYRM3LQED1@rebelprivacy.com">IVP1JQKYRM3LQED1@rebelprivacy.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:IVP1JQKYRM3LQED1@rebelprivacy.com">IVP1JQKYRM3LQED1@rebelprivacy.com</a>&gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; How is it being used? It's fairly
                    straightforward: it sells addictive (controlled
                    substances) and other prescription drugs without a
                    valid prescription. But that's not all:<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; &nbsp;* &nbsp; As noted, it sells prescription drugs,
                    including controlled substances, without requiring a
                    valid prescription.<br>
                    &gt; &nbsp;* &nbsp; The drugs are not sold by a pharmacy
                    licensed or otherwise recognized in the patient's
                    jurisdiction, as is the standard requirement.<br>
                    &gt; &nbsp;* &nbsp; The drugs are considered unapproved or
                    falsified, depending on the regulatory language in
                    the jurisdiction. Part of the reason is that they
                    are illegally imported into the customers'
                    jurisdiction and thus unregulated for safety or
                    authenticity.<br>
                    &gt; To be clear, this domain name is not being used
                    for legal commercial purposes in any jurisdiction.
                    (Despite its claim to be using a licensed pharmacy
                    in India, not even in India, for reasons I can
                    explain separately if anyone wants to know.) I
                    choose this domain name because I do not think its
                    unlawful or dangerous use can be disputed. I would
                    further argue that the use of the p/p protection
                    allows the unlawful actor to continue operating, as
                    I explain below.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Being privacy protected, of course, we can't
                    immediately tell who is operating the website. Can
                    we get law enforcement or courts in the registrar's
                    jurisdiction to do anything -- e.g., go to the
                    registrar and ask or require them to reveal the
                    identity of the registrant? No. Try to buy a drug
                    such as Xanax from this website. This Internet
                    pharmacy will ship anywhere in the world except to
                    Canada -- where its registrar and servers are
                    located. To protect its ability to sell drugs
                    globally, the registrant has sacrificed sales to a
                    single country, and chosen a registrar and servers
                    there, to create a safe haven. Consequently,
                    Canadian law enforcement cannot point to a violation
                    of Canadian law: no drugs are being shipped into
                    Canada -- just everywhere else around the world.
                    (Which, we can infer, is why this registrant removed
                    Canada from their shipping destinations.) And, the
                    reverse is true -- a court order or law enforcement
                    request from outside of Canada can simply be ignored
                    by the registrar and server companies in Canada.
                    Those who have argued that the best way to deal with
                    p/p use by illegal actors is simply to get a court
                    order are not accounting for this quite common
                    scenario.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Being able to hide their identity in the Whois
                    record is also the perfect set up for another
                    reason: many registrars have said in the past that
                    they only way that they can (or perhaps, will) take
                    action on a domain name is if the Whois record is
                    falsified. But how would we know? It is privacy
                    protected. That removes the WDPRS as a mechanism for
                    dealing with abusive behavior.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Does this commercial registrant have a
                    legitimate need for p/p services? I would argue that
                    that is not the question to be answered. The
                    question is: Does a consumer, consumer protection
                    firm, government agency, etc. have the right to know
                    who is operating this website? I would submit to
                    this group that it is incumbent upon us to recommend
                    a thoughtful, balanced policy that prevents this
                    sort of "perfect set up" for Internet criminals to
                    hide their identity as this one has. Keep in mind
                    that, as pointed out in the circulated paper, no
                    such right exists in the offline world -- rather,
                    consumers have the right to know who they are
                    dealing with. Ample requirements exist for business
                    registrations to do business transparently. There
                    should be no difference in the online world.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Finally, recall that the Affirmation of
                    Commitments (AoC) requires "timely, unrestricted and
                    public access to accurate and complete WHOIS
                    information." The AoC goes on to state that WHOIS
                    policy and its implementation needs to meet "the
                    legitimate needs of law enforcement and promote
                    consumer trust." I ask the group, is ICANN
                    fulfilling its commitment, not only to law
                    enforcement but especially to promote consumer
                    trust, if it allows websites like this to continue
                    using p/p services?<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Thank you for your consideration.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; John Horton<br>
                    &gt; President, LegitScript<br>
                    &gt; [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://static.legitscript.com/assets/logo-smaller-cdb8a6f307ce2c6172e72257dc6dfc34.png"
                      target="_blank">https://static.legitscript.com/assets/logo-smaller-cdb8a6f307ce2c6172e72257dc6dfc34.png</a>]<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Follow LegitScript: LinkedIn&lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com"
                      target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com</a>&gt;

                    &nbsp;| &nbsp;Facebook&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.facebook.com/LegitScript"
                      target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/LegitScript</a>&gt;

                    &nbsp;| &nbsp;Twitter&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://twitter.com/legitscript"
                      target="_blank">https://twitter.com/legitscript</a>&gt;

                    &nbsp;| &nbsp;YouTube&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://www.youtube.com/user/LegitScript"
                      target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/user/LegitScript</a>&gt;

                    &nbsp;| &nbsp;Blog&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://blog.legitscript.com" target="_blank">http://blog.legitscript.com</a>&gt;

                    &nbsp;| &nbsp;Google+&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://plus.google.com/112436813474708014933/posts"
                      target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/112436813474708014933/posts</a>&gt;<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Libby Baney
                    &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:libby.baney@fwdstrategies.com">libby.baney@fwdstrategies.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:libby.baney@fwdstrategies.com">libby.baney@fwdstrategies.com</a>&gt;&gt;

                    wrote:<br>
                    &gt; All --<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; I appreciate the dialogue the group has begun
                    regarding WHOIS transparency for entities engaged in
                    commercial activity. With the hope of encouraging
                    discussion on the merits of the issue, I am pleased
                    to share the attached white paper: Commercial Use of
                    Domain Names: An Analysis of Multiple Jurisdictions.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; As you'll see, the paper addresses the
                    following question: Should domain name registrants
                    who sell products or services on their websites
                    should be able to conceal their identity and
                    location in the domain name registration? The paper
                    argues that they should not. Rather, the authors
                    find that requiring domain name registrants engaged
                    in commercial activity to provide transparent WHOIS
                    information falls squarely in line both with ICANN's
                    commitment to Internet users and existing global
                    public policy to keep businesses honest and
                    consumers safe. Accordingly, the paper recommends an
                    approach that balances personal privacy and consumer
                    protection rights. On the one hand, domain names
                    used for non-commercial purposes (e.g., personal
                    blogs) should, the authors believe, be permitted to
                    utilize privacy or proxy registration. This reflects
                    a fundamental right to privacy of domain name
                    registrants not engaged in commerce. However, the
                    authors do not believe the same right exists for
                    registrants of websites engaged in commerce - a
                    conclusion borne out by our research.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; It goes without saying that this group is
                    divided on the issue of requiring WHOIS transparency
                    for sites engaged in commercial activity. As some in
                    the PPSAI WG have commented, these issues may be
                    complicated but they nonetheless merit our full
                    consideration. We hope the attached white paper
                    stimulates further thinking and group discussion on
                    the issues.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; I look forward to continuing the discussion
                    tomorrow.<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; Libby<br>
                    &gt;<br>
                    &gt; --<br>
                    &gt; Libby Baney, JD<br>
                    &gt; President<br>
                    &gt; FWD Strategies International<br>
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