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Hi Susan,<br>
<br>
I do not see it as necessarily as a different treatment. The
registrant is still required to provide <font face="Calibri"
size="3"><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);"><span
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:
yellow">accurate and reliable contact details,</span></span></font>
these details are just not published. Just in the same way I can
have a functioning email address but route undesired mails to the
trashcan automatically prior to retrieving the mails, so can other
automated or manual means be employed to filter undesired
communications. A privacy service is just another of those means. <br>
<font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);"><span
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:
yellow"></span></span></font>
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Can the data the registrant be provided be relied upon? Of course,
since the service provider needs to be able to contact them. In
case of a full or partial reveal, the data will be revealed as
reliable. Accurate and reliable date does not suddenly become
unreliable data by the mere fact that it is hidden. The data is
just as reliable or unreliable whether it is public or hidden.<br>
<br>
If I as a registrant wanted to build my details in a way that any
mail sent to me would be met with an automated responder that
instructs the sender to fill in a webform, that would be perfectly
fine. Sure, I cannot be reached through that address, but I can be
contacted. Why should privacy services be different? <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
Am 18.08.2014 18:24, schrieb Susan Kawaguchi:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font
face="Calibri" size="3">What I do not understand is why a
proxy registration should be treated so differently than
the other 75% of gTld domain name registrations? <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><o:p><font
face="Calibri" size="3"> </font></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font
face="Calibri" size="3">In the 2013 RAA section 3.7.7.1 it
states the following:<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
margin-bottom: 20pt;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span
style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);">3.7.7.1 The Registered
Name Holder shall provide to
</span><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);">Registrar</span><span
style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);">
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:
yellow">accurate and reliable contact details</span>
and correct and update them within seven (7) days of any
change during the term of the Registered Name
registration, including: the full name, postal address,
e-mail address, voice telephone number, and fax number
if available of the Registered Name Holder; name of
authorized person for contact purposes in the case of an
Registered Name Holder that is an organization,
association, or corporation; and the data elements
listed in Subsections 3.3.1.2, 3.3.1.7 and 3.3.1.8.</span></font></p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-bottom: 20pt;"
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);"><font
face="Calibri" size="3">Creating a new method of
contacting the registered name holder and underlying
licensee or not relaying communications via email or to
the postal address does not appear to fulfill the
requirement of “accurate and reliable contact details”<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
margin-bottom: 20pt;"><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);"><font
face="Calibri" size="3">A proxy registration information
may be accurate but currently the information fails as
reliable contact details.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 20pt;"><font
color="#262626" face="Calibri" size="3">Requiring a
webform be filled out and submitted to contact the
Registered name holder and underlying licensee when the
other 75% of gTld domain name registrations are required
to have a reliable email address and postal address sets
the proxy registrations apart. The webform is not listed
as a requirement in section 3. 7.7.1. Why would we
afford this special treatment to the proxy registrations? </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 20pt;"><span
style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Calibri;
font-size: medium;">I realize the service has developed in
this manner but it is also the reason we are continuing to
discuss this issue. </span></p>
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style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family: Calibri;
font-size: medium;"> </span></p>
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<font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" size="3">Susan
Kawaguchi<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"><font class="Apple-style-span"
size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">Domain
Name Manager</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"><font class="Apple-style-span"
size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; ">Facebook
Legal Dept.</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-family: Calibri; "> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;
"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3">Phone - 650
485-6064</font></span></p>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><Williams>,
Todd <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Todd.Williams@turner.com">Todd.Williams@turner.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, August
18, 2014 at 8:19 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"James M. Bladel"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>,
Volker Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposal contactability<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">Thanks James. Quick question: if, as you note,
most of your P/P customers engage the service to avoid
being spammed – why is that objective/purpose not
sufficiently protected by a standard that says “A
provider must relay all electronic requests received
(including emails and via web forms), but may
implement commercially reasonable safeguards
(including CAPTCHA) to filter out spam.”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">By asking the question I don’t necessarily mean
to make a judgment on your “access whitelist” idea.
I’m just not sure I understand its utility on this
specific question (relay), where a means to address
the problem that it is trying to solve (i.e., spam)
appears to have already been baked in.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">Thanks</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><br>
TW. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 17, 2014 6:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Volker Greimann; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso</a></span><span
style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;">(most of our P/P customers
engage the service to avoid being spammed).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposal contactability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks
to Volker for getting this conversation started. I
also share the belief that we should define a system
that assures reporters their claims will be relayed
by P/P services. However, I disagree on some key
points raised by Volker and others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">First,
I do not believe there should be any attempt to
filter submitted reports based on content. That
approach does not scale, and simply results in an
arms race where would-be spammers attempt to
circumvent the filters. Also, I do not believe P/P
services should relay —all—reports. This treats the
P/P email point of contact as an email “alias” for
the beneficial user’s real address, and completely
defeats the purpose of the service<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I
favor an approach that is modeled after ICANN’s
Invalid WHOIS Reporting System, and one that many
Registrars have implemented to guard against WHOIS
harvesting – an access whitelist. Speaking
generally, such a system would require reporters to
identify themselves when submitting a claim for
relay. Is reporter should also have to designate
the email address from which relay claims will
originate, and the service provider agrees to honor
relay request from that Address without
discriminating on its content. The P/P service
provider can then monitor the use of the relay
system by each reporter, and suspend or terminate
access for any reporter that is found to be abusing
the system. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">If
this sounds familiar, it is blatantly copied from
the EWG's proposed RDS concept. I think this idea
has merit, and regardless of what happens to the
rest of the EWG's recommendations, we should
consider opportunities to implement this proposal in
existing contexts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Look
forward to continuing our discussions on this point
on Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thanks—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">J.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Volker
Greimann <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 13, 2014 at 4:27 <br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposal
contactability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">As
Susan and Steve have repeatedly asked what my
proposal would be to ensure contactability of the
beneficial owner/registrant.<br>
<br>
As a basis, a spec derivative of the WAP spec to
the RAA would have to be developed. I took the
liberty of modifying the WAP for this purpose as a
basis for discussion.<br>
This would bring the obligation of the privacy
service provider to validate and verify the
contact details to the same level of that of the
registrar, thus ensuring the Service Provider has
either accurate details or a duty to verify and
validate.<br>
<br>
Now, I would agree that some level of a
contactibility guarantee is warranted. This could
be something to this tune, as a basis for
discussion:<br>
<br>
<i>"Service Provider are required provide a means
for third parties to directly or indirectly
communicate with the Beneficial Owner. Such
means may include any of the following:<br>
a) providing a postal mail forwarding address<br>
b) providing a collective email point of contact
for all domain names under the Service (such as
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:abuse@service.provider">abuse@service.provider</a>)<br>
c) providing an individual email point of
contact for each domain name under the Service
(such as
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:string@domain.name">string@domain.name</a>
or <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:domain.name@service.provider">
domain.name@service.provider</a>)<br>
...<br>
...<br>
<br>
Service Provider must inform potential
complainants about the accepted means of
communication on its website. Service provider
may refuse to forward, process or even accept
communications sent by a non-accepted means of
communication. In case forwarding of postal
communications is offered, Service Provider may
charge complainant reasonable handling fees and
costs for the forwarding service and defer the
forwarding of communications until payment is
received.
<br>
<br>
Service Provider may refuse to forward spam,
duplicate messages, purchase or business
inquiries, harrassing communications, anonymous
communications and/or unwanted communications.
Service Provider is authorized to update or
modify the means of communication from time to
time. Service Provider is authorized to
blacklist complainants with a history of abusing
the provided means of communication."</i><br>
<br>
All subject to further discussion, ofc. <br>
<br>
I realize this draft goes into detail more than we
should in this WG, but having been asked for a
proposal, I felt it necessary in order to move the
discussion ahead.<br>
Terms:<br>
Service Provider - Privacy/Proxy Service Provider<br>
Beneficial Owner - Replaces "Registrant"<br>
filter - not deliver to Beneficial owner<br>
Service - the privacy/proxy services<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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