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for a person to catch-up from vacation :-)<br>
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I just wanted to send my apologies for missing last week's meeting
(there was not much connectivity in my tent) and I look forward to
the discussion today.<br>
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Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
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Hi Susan,<br>
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thank you for your feedback. i think it is good to clarify the
differences so we may work towards the commonalities. <br>
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</span><font color="#ff0000">If a proxy service provides an
email address in the WHOIS record but nothing is relayed or
only emails that hit a very narrow criteria beyond the spam
filters that would not equate to reliable contact details in
my opinion. <br>
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<font color="#ff0000">We seem to be differing mainly on the
semantics of the word reliable, it seems. I see the underlying
data, especially if verified, as highly reliable. The fact that
it is hidden does not make it less reliable. OTOH, you seem to
refer to the word as having the added meaning of usability for
the purpose of anyone contacting the domain owner. </font><br>
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<font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Can the data the
registrant be provided be relied upon? Of course,
since the service provider needs to be able to contact
them. In case of a full or partial reveal, the data
will be revealed as reliable. Accurate and reliable
date does not suddenly become unreliable data by the
mere fact that it is hidden. The data is just as
reliable or unreliable whether it is public or hidden.</font><br>
<font color="#ff0000"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Actually
this is not my experience at all that the data
provided by the underlying registrant is reliable.
The information is often times inaccurate I would
guess at the same inaccuracy rates of regular domain
name registrations. This may have changed recently
with the validation process and people becoming more
aware of the need to have accurate data but I do not
think we could assume the information is accurate. </font><font
face="Calibri,sans-serif">I</font><font
face="Calibri,sans-serif"> do find the proxy service
information to be accurate. </font></font><br>
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<font face="Calibri,sans-serif">One part of the accreditation
regime that I assumed to be a given was that the underlying
email address would have to be verified at some point. This
could take the form of the provider performing the verification
on its own or of relying of the confirmation of the registrar
that the verification has been performed already. <br>
This would greatly increase the reliability of the data of any
domain names newly entering the service.<br>
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face="Calibri,sans-serif">If I as a registrant wanted
to build my details in a way that any mail sent to me
would be met with an automated responder that
instructs the sender to fill in a webform, that would
be perfectly fine. Sure, I cannot be reached through
that address, but I can be contacted. Why should
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sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> <font color="#ff0000">At least
if you sent an email to admin email address and received an
auto response that may act as confirmation of the email
being received. A proxy vendor refusing to accept email as
required by the RAA and requiring a web form be filled out
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I think you misunderstood my intent here. I was describing a
service that would automatically trash the incoming mail but not
before sending out an automated response that re-directs the
sender to a web-page where he could submit the complaint. I
believe this to be in full compliance with the RAA as:<br>
a) there is a working email address on display <br>
b) sending a message to that email address allows the sender to
communicate with the registrant, provided he follows the further
instructions. <br>
No spammer would do such a thing, but a valid complainant would.
It mainly prevents automated messages from reaching the
complainant, but I am sure you'd agree that any complaint would
have to be vetted by a living being before being sent to ensure
quality and avoid erroneous complaints.<br>
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Similarly, a privacy service might update the email address on
display regularly to foil address harvesters without violating the
letter or spirit of the RAA.<br>
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I think what we need to focus on is less of the small parts but
rather the big picture:<br>
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a) Should there be some form of means to contact the registrant
with legitimate communications? - Yes<br>
b) Should there be a means to contact the provider? - Definitely<br>
c) Can a provider chose the (reasonable) means by which the above
may be accomplished, and exclude certain forms of communication? -
Yes again, but that should be made clear somehow.<br>
d) Should the registrant be allowed to refuse any communication? -
Probably, however in the case of refusal to accept any
communication, this should be made clear to the third party.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> Best,<br>
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Volker<br>
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Am 18.08.2014 18:24, schrieb Susan Kawaguchi:<br>
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face="Calibri" size="3">What I do not understand
is why a proxy registration should be treated so
differently than the other 75% of gTld domain
name registrations? <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><o:p><font
face="Calibri" size="3"> </font></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font
face="Calibri" size="3">In the 2013 RAA section
3.7.7.1 it states the following:<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
margin-bottom: 20pt;"> <font face="Calibri"
size="3"><span style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38);">3.7.7.1
The Registered Name Holder shall provide to </span><span
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style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:
yellow">accurate and reliable contact
details</span> and correct and update them
within seven (7) days of any change during the
term of the Registered Name registration,
including: the full name, postal address,
e-mail address, voice telephone number, and
fax number if available of the Registered Name
Holder; name of authorized person for contact
purposes in the case of an Registered Name
Holder that is an organization, association,
or corporation; and the data elements listed
in Subsections 3.3.1.2, 3.3.1.7 and 3.3.1.8.</span></font></p>
<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-bottom: 20pt;"
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38);"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Creating a
new method of contacting the registered name
holder and underlying licensee or not relaying
communications via email or to the postal
address does not appear to fulfill the
requirement of “accurate and reliable contact
details”<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
margin-bottom: 20pt;"> <span style="color:
rgb(38, 38, 38);"><font face="Calibri" size="3">A
proxy registration information may be accurate
but currently the information fails as
reliable contact details.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 20pt;"><font
color="#262626" face="Calibri" size="3">Requiring
a webform be filled out and submitted to contact
the Registered name holder and underlying
licensee when the other 75% of gTld domain name
registrations are required to have a reliable
email address and postal address sets the proxy
registrations apart. The webform is not listed
as a requirement in section 3. 7.7.1. Why
would we afford this special treatment to the
proxy registrations? </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 20pt;"><span
style="color: rgb(38, 38, 38); font-family:
Calibri; font-size: medium;">I realize the
service has developed in this manner but it is
also the reason we are continuing to discuss
this issue. </span></p>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks James.
Quick question: if, as you note, most of
your P/P customers engage the service to
avoid being spammed – why is that
objective/purpose not sufficiently protected
by a standard that says “A provider must
relay all electronic requests received
(including emails and via web forms), but
may implement commercially reasonable
safeguards (including CAPTCHA) to filter out
spam.”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">By asking the
question I don’t necessarily mean to make a
judgment on your “access whitelist” idea.
I’m just not sure I understand its utility
on this specific question (relay), where a
means to address the problem that it is
trying to solve (i.e., spam) appears to have
already been baked in. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>
TW. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 17, 2014
6:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Volker Greimann; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso</a></span><span
style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
font-size: 14px;">(most of our P/P
customers engage the service to avoid
being spammed).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposal
contactability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;">Thanks to Volker for
getting this conversation started. I also
share the belief that we should define a
system that assures reporters their claims
will be relayed by P/P services. However,
I disagree on some key points raised by
Volker and others.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;">First, I do not believe
there should be any attempt to filter
submitted reports based on content. That
approach does not scale, and simply
results in an arms race where would-be
spammers attempt to circumvent the
filters. Also, I do not believe P/P
services should relay —all—reports. This
treats the P/P email point of contact as
an email “alias” for the beneficial user’s
real address, and completely defeats the
purpose of the service<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;">I favor an approach that is
modeled after ICANN’s Invalid WHOIS
Reporting System, and one that many
Registrars have implemented to guard
against WHOIS harvesting – an access
whitelist. Speaking generally, such a
system would require reporters to identify
themselves when submitting a claim for
relay. Is reporter should also have to
designate the email address from which
relay claims will originate, and the
service provider agrees to honor relay
request from that Address without
discriminating on its content. The P/P
service provider can then monitor the use
of the relay system by each reporter, and
suspend or terminate access for any
reporter that is found to be abusing the
system. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;">If this sounds familiar, it
is blatantly copied from the EWG's
proposed RDS concept. I think this idea
has merit, and regardless of what happens
to the rest of the EWG's recommendations,
we should consider opportunities to
implement this proposal in existing
contexts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;">Look forward to continuing
our discussions on this point on Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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color: black;">Thanks—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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color: black;">J.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:
black;">Volker Greimann <<a
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href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 13, 2014
at 4:27 <br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposal contactability<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: black;">As Susan and
Steve have repeatedly asked what my
proposal would be to ensure
contactability of the beneficial
owner/registrant.<br>
<br>
As a basis, a spec derivative of the WAP
spec to the RAA would have to be
developed. I took the liberty of
modifying the WAP for this purpose as a
basis for discussion.<br>
This would bring the obligation of the
privacy service provider to validate and
verify the contact details to the same
level of that of the registrar, thus
ensuring the Service Provider has either
accurate details or a duty to verify and
validate.<br>
<br>
Now, I would agree that some level of a
contactibility guarantee is warranted.
This could be something to this tune, as
a basis for discussion:<br>
<br>
<i>"Service Provider are required
provide a means for third parties to
directly or indirectly communicate
with the Beneficial Owner. Such means
may include any of the following:<br>
a) providing a postal mail forwarding
address<br>
b) providing a collective email point
of contact for all domain names under
the Service (such as <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:abuse@service.provider">abuse@service.provider</a>)<br>
c) providing an individual email point
of contact for each domain name under
the Service (such as <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:string@domain.name">string@domain.name</a>
or <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:domain.name@service.provider">domain.name@service.provider</a>)<br>
...<br>
...<br>
<br>
Service Provider must inform potential
complainants about the accepted means
of communication on its website.
Service provider may refuse to
forward, process or even accept
communications sent by a non-accepted
means of communication. In case
forwarding of postal communications is
offered, Service Provider may charge
complainant reasonable handling fees
and costs for the forwarding service
and defer the forwarding of
communications until payment is
received. <br>
<br>
Service Provider may refuse to forward
spam, duplicate messages, purchase or
business inquiries, harrassing
communications, anonymous
communications and/or unwanted
communications. Service Provider is
authorized to update or modify the
means of communication from time to
time. Service Provider is authorized
to blacklist complainants with a
history of abusing the provided means
of communication."</i><br>
<br>
All subject to further discussion, ofc.
<br>
<br>
I realize this draft goes into detail
more than we should in this WG, but
having been asked for a proposal, I felt
it necessary in order to move the
discussion ahead.<br>
Terms:<br>
Service Provider - Privacy/Proxy Service
Provider<br>
Beneficial Owner - Replaces "Registrant"<br>
filter - not deliver to Beneficial owner<br>
Service - the privacy/proxy services<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">CEO: Alexander Siffrin<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.key-systems.net&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=cjstkpAuvAi4gqeqX5O18A%3D%3D%0A&m=irWKKupqbA8cE9%2FFBluniHq77PwyDkW0%2Fur%2BvTcFdUg%3D%0A&s=d1aff2ac4a5464b0e044c5bc116ef5e369bf18b3eb31478c211437a43fde11ce">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.RRPproxy.net&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=cjstkpAuvAi4gqeqX5O18A%3D%3D%0A&m=irWKKupqbA8cE9%2FFBluniHq77PwyDkW0%2Fur%2BvTcFdUg%3D%0A&s=8352699c2bc91fb33eb654e83c025da311d36d76d2b54d8b76b19bed0900bbea">www.RRPproxy.net</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.domaindiscount24.com&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=cjstkpAuvAi4gqeqX5O18A%3D%3D%0A&m=irWKKupqbA8cE9%2FFBluniHq77Pw!
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Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
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Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
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Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
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