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class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <b><u>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 02 September 2014:<o:p></o:p></u></b></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the PPSAI WG call on the 2nd September 2014 at 14:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Hello Holly, dialing out to you now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Holly Raiche:Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Tobias Sattler:Hi there<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:good afternoon all <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:G'morning all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristina Rosette:Greetings. Apologies for being late. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Hi. Dialling in now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Amr, attendance noted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Thnx. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Susan Kawaguchi has just joined<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Phil Marano and Vicky Scheckler are on the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Jim Bikoff is also on the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Paul McGrady is in the Ac room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:Nope!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Griffin Barnett is also on the call<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Libby Baney has joined the room<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:someone's mic needs to get muted<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Please mute your mics unless you're speaking - thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:vigourous typing<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Frank Michlick:who is typing next to their mic?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:still typing :p<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Kathy Kleiman is on the phone bridge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Operaor is tyring to isolate typionng noise<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:please all mute mics<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:and phones when not speaking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:this quality of call today is pretty poor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:lots of clicking <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. I haven't gone through this document yet. Trying to read it now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:@Chris, I'm on the phone bridge, but do not hear clicking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:would you like us to dial out to you to improve your line?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:I can hear the clicking too.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:ok let me see what the operator can do, as I cannot hear it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:the clicking is clearly audible on the Adobe audio bridge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:now it is gone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:Nathalie, no - but I was not the only one hearing it and it was annoying - right now its gone, thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Following up on Kathy's question - the NCSG's suggsetion regarding considerations of anti-competitive activity and small business challenges is listed under the question relating to Safeguards (in this new document, Section II Question 3.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:Often both, Steve<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Libby Baney:I've heard use of the phrase "legitimate" request, and evaluate "on its merits." It is unclear to me what those terms mean. Where are they defined? Is it the charge of this group to establish the standard?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:Difficult. Currently, our review gives us the necessary leeway to make a case-by-case decision.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Is it practicle to try to standardize what is a "legitimate" request? Couldn't that vary according to the jurisdiction the P/P provider exists in?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:All notices into us are case bny case, you cannot mask it down to a set of rules as things will fall through the cracks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> vicky sheckler:in considering legitimate request, need to consider jdx of complainant as well<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:phone crackling is back<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Holly Raiche:@ Chris - I thing that was my question - how hard will it be to understand base line istuations of disclosure<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Operator is working to isolate the line<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:please all mute phones and AC room mics when not talking<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Does minimum standard = standard? I don't think so. A minimum standard would be required, but may not actually warrant a reveal. A strict standard would, wouldn't it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:very good point Kathy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:we are back to the cracking noice on the adobe bridge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul McGrady:Sounds is going in and out.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:we're orking on it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:Working<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Graeme Bunton:I'd have to ask compliance for a concrete answer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Volker Greimann:Addition: Anonymous complaints go directly to the bin. No response, no recourse!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:gone all quiet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Nathalie Peregrine:There is no issue with the Ac audio, someone on the phone line was creating static, that person has now been muted and informed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:ill take my hand down<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:UDRP is there and the UDRP service will request a reveal<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:its to do with the "domain" not the content though<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:We siggest to the registrant that they seek professional advice<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:@Kathy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:suggest *<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Chris Pelling:thank you all :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Holly Raiche:thanks steve<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. 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