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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Kathy,<br>
<br>
Let me give you an example that happened a few years ago.<br>
<br>
We had Apple request information from us, we stated that it would
have to come through their lawyers AND we require an
indemnification from Apples lawyers in case of future retaliation
or come back.<br>
<br>
Apples lawyers were hesitant until Apple were simply told provide
it or seek court order. The domain (because we manually go over
each request) showed Apples TM, this site was not in the US, but,
it was in the UK where we have offices, and hence why we gained
the indemnity.<br>
<br>
So we as registrars DO take each and every case on its merits as
we have too. <br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kind regards,
Chris</pre>
On 23/09/2014 3:12 PM, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tx Chris and All,<br>
<br>
There seems to be a pattern here that certainly defies some of
my assumptions coming into the WG:<br>
1. P/P Providers dedicate a lot of time and care to Reveal<br>
2. Many P/P are not webhosts <br>
3. So content is generally outside their balliwick.<br>
==> This certainly changes my analysis a bit. Tx you for the
insight!<br>
Kathy<br>
:<br>
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Hi All,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <br>
Let me answer from our point of view and how we handle
things :<br>
<br>
1. Because we look at EACH and EVERY request manually if by
ticket or mail, all requests for disclosure are passed to
the PP customer, we ask the 2 parties requestee and pp
customer to resolve whatever issue between them, as this is
the best way forward for all parties. <br>
2. There is little point allowing a deletion of the domain,
as it will then simply be registered elsewhere. However, in
point 1 getting the 2 parties talking and more to the point
a resolution fixes the issue.<br>
3. Case by Case basis - we do not host material for
example, thus DMCA as an example is simply passed on. If
the issue is with the actual domain name, then UDRP.<br>
4. Well I can answer this one, in the last year we have had
2 requests if memory serves and thus 2 disclosures.<br>
5. As 4, only LEA. We would only disclose on LEA request
(in our jurisdiction) or Court order. <br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kind regards,
Chris
NetEarth One, inc</pre>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"> </pre>
On 16/09/2014 11:38 PM, Mary Wong wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;">Dear WG members,</div>
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<div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;">With the Chairs’ consent, I’m sending on
the questions that were asked by several WG members
during the call earlier today, in the hopes that those
members who are or know of P/P providers and their
practices can respond. If links to or copies of
provider practices and policies can be provided, that
would be very helpful too.</div>
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<li style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;">What are provider practices regarding
customer notification when a disclosure request is
received, and is the customer given the opportunity
to respond? (Note - on the call, James had agreed to
provide information about DBP; Graeme and Michele
had responded on behalf of their respective
companies – perhaps other providers besides DBP can
also step in here?)</li>
<li style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif;">Does any provider offer its customer an
option other than disclosure or publication, e.g. an
opportunity to cancel the registration instead (i.e.
what some WG members have mentioned as a
“takedown”)?</li>
<li>What are provider “standards" for determining
disclosure to third parties? </li>
<li>Can providers give the WG some general information
about the percentage of requests for disclosure that
are successful</li>
<li>For Q4, do providers also have information about
the type of claims those relate to e.g. If they are
from LEA, 3P IP claim etc.?</li>
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<div>As also noted on the call, the Chairs will discuss
some of the responses and suggestions that were made,
with a view toward hopefully offering some kind of
summary or recommendation in time for the call next
week.<!--EndFragment--></div>
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<div>Thanks and cheers</div>
<div>Mary</div>
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class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
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class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
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Names & Numbers (ICANN)</span></font></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
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class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
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