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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A Belated +1 to Todd's thoughtful
analysis below. <br>
<br>
Although #1 (publication) does seem to be the default for some re:
UDRP filings, it does seem to be intrinsically unfair to publish a
Registrants personal/organizational data to the world without at
least a *finding* of actual wrongdoing (not the filing of the
complaint in and of itself -- what happens if it is a Reverse
Domain Name Hijacking decision, or a previous business partner
sharing rights to the same name...??)<br>
<br>
Here, I think disclosure to the Complainant and the Forum would be
sufficient to meet the needs of the Complainant, and provide
information that can be used for both the formal dispute and
perhaps an informal resolution.<br>
<br>
I think Todd lays it out far more eloquently below...<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
<br>
:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks Mary. One
thought for the group to consider (happy to discuss in more
detail on the call):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Reviewing the
attached, it seems as if there are basically two
alternatives for us to debate when it comes to disclosure in
the context of cybersquatting and UDRPs (setting aside for
now that there are many abuses other than cybersquatting
where disclosure may be relevant):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">One alternative is
for the p/p provider to simply funnel those kinds of
complaints into a UDRP. This approach basically skips
“disclosure” and goes straight to “publication” – the
attached points out that most providers will publish all
contact information to the world once a UDRP is filed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The other alternative
would require disclosure to the complainant under certain
enumerated circumstances where the complainant provides
enough information to meet certain prima facie elements (and
makes certain averments under penalty of perjury).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Based on the
attached, it seems that Option (1) is currently the more
common approach. But going forward, isn’t Option (2) much
better for the consumers/beneficial users who purchase p/p
services? As Kathy and others have rightly mentioned,
publication (to the world) is a more extreme deviation from
the beneficial user’s privacy expectations than is
disclosure (to a single complainant). So why would we adopt
an accreditation regime that skews the process toward the
more drastic result?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> f<br>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">One other thought on
this: in many cases disclosure may obviate the need to file
a UDRP at all. Maybe the complainant can contact the
beneficial user to negotiate a resolution. Or maybe
learning the beneficial user’s identity will cause the
complainant to question its original analysis that the
domain name was being used in bad faith. Whatever the
reason, I would assume that avoiding a UDRP is almost always
going to be the better option for ALL parties involved:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:51.75pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The complainant gets
to save the money that it would otherwise spend on a UDRP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:51.75pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The beneficial user
gets to avoid the more drastic result of publication to the
world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:51.75pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo3">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The p/p provider gets
to avoid being named as a respondent in a UDRP proceeding
(which James noted on our call can be problematic), and may
get to keep a paying customer that it would otherwise lose
once the UDRP is filed and the contact information is
published to the world.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">So if everybody is
better off under Option (2) than Option (1), what I am
missing? What is the argument for Option (1)? And why is
it the more common approach used today (at least, according
to the responses compiled in the attached)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><br>
Todd.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 25, 2014 7:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> PPSAI WG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Compilation of P/P
provider responses<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Dear WG members,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Please find
attached a document that staff has compiled of P/P
provider responses to the 5 questions posed by the WG
chairs to the group after the call last week, as
follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">1. What are
provider practices regarding customer notification
when a disclosure request is received, and is the
customer given the opportunity to respond?
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">2. Does any
provider offer its customer an option other than
disclosure or publication, e.g. an opportunity to
cancel the registration instead (i.e. what some WG
members have mentioned as a “takedown”)?</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">3. What are
provider “standards" for determining disclosure to
third parties?
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">4. Can
providers give the WG some general information about
the percentage of requests for disclosure that are
successful?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">5. For Q4,
do providers also have information about the type of
claims those relate to e.g. If they are from LEA, 3P
IP claim etc.?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Please let me
know if I have mischaracterized or omitted any
response that you may have sent (for which I offer my
apologies!). If you have not yet provided a response
and are in a position to do so, or if you’d like to
add to a response you’d provided previously, please
send it along and I’ll make sure it gets added to this
document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Finally, please
note that certain actual provider terms of service
obtained from a sample of providers had previously
been compiled as part of the draft template for this
Category F, so that may also be helpful – these are
available on the WG wiki here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/QwbxAg">
https://community.icann.org/x/QwbxAg</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks and cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Senior Policy
Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers
(ICANN)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Telephone: +1
603 574 4892<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Email: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">
mary.wong@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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