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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi All,<br>
I just thought I would expand a bit on my earlier email. The
intermix of reveal and relay seems to be an art. Some p/p
providers rely more on Reveal, others on Relay. Basically it seems
to be a balance between the two services, but the balance seems to
be a bit different for each P/P. <br>
<br>
But the key seems to be Reveal. Until we nail that down (and I do
not yet see a common baseline other than case by case analysis,
which I support), I don't think we can nail down Relay (which
appears to play a greater role in P/P Providers with case by case
analysis for Reveal).<br>
<br>
If I understand things correctly (and I may not :-)), then I think
we should wrap up Reveal, sit back, evaluate and then finish up
Relay. I don't think we can do them both at once in LA or that we
should finish Relay first.<br>
<br>
Hence, my vote for Reveal then Transfer/Renewal -- #3 and #1. More
than enough for one day?<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi All,<br>
Sorry for the delay, but I have given this some thought. I agree
we need to continue our work on #3, Reveal, and I completely
agree with James that #1 is key. Transfers and renewals while
keeping privacy protection is a key part of our work and
something in which we (this WG) can make a difference and set a
new baseline.<br>
<br>
So I would recommend, #3 and #1 (in that order) -- and circling
back to #2 Relay later when we have nailed down Reveal. The
reason why is that I can think Relay will change depending on
what we decide for Reveal...<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
:<br>
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<div>Same here, but folks we really have to take a comprehensive
look at topic #1 at some point. While IP protection
mechanisms may be a hot topic at ICANN, the impact on
transfers & renewals will be the yardstick used by the
“real world” to measure the success—or failure--of our work.</div>
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<div>J.</div>
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style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Darcy Southwell
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday,
September 29, 2014 at 23:39 <br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Mary Wong <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>,
PPSAI WG <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Please select TWO topics from this list
for the WG F2F session on 10 Oct 2014<br>
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<div>Thank you, Mary. I vote for #2 and #3.</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Darcy Southwell</div>
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PADDING-TOP: 3pt"> <span style="font-weight:bold">From:
</span>Mary Wong <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday,
September 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>PPSAI WG
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Please select TWO topics from this list for the WG F2F
session on 10 Oct 2014<br>
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<div>Dear WG members,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>After consultation with the WG chairs, we would
like to propose the following as topics that we
thought would benefit from further and more
in-depth discussion during the WG’s upcoming
face-to-face facilitated session in Los Angeles on
Friday 10 October.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please reply (off list to me is fine) with your
<i><b>top two</b></i> choices of preferred topics
– note that the last option also allows anyone to
add a topic (based on the group’s Preliminary
Conclusions and templates to date, and following
the Charter questions and agreed categories A-G)
that is not specifically listed below. Staff will
compile a list of the top three topics selected by
the most WG members for discussion at the 10
October session.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
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WordSection1;">
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;
border:none; padding:0px;">
<div><b>1. What rights/responsibilities and
obligations should be communicated by P/P
service providers to customers/registrants
with regard to transfers and renewals of
domain name registrations? </b>(from
Category B Question 3 – see attached report
from the Transfers Issues sub-team (James
and Kathy); the WG Template including
Preliminary Conclusions can be reviewed at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg">https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg</a>) </div>
<div><font><br>
</font></div>
<div><font><b>2. Further discussion on
Category E – Relay</b> (see WG Templates
including Preliminary Conclusions at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg">https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg</a>;
specifically, the three remaining </font>“<font>open
questions</font>”<font color="#000000">, i</font><font
color="#000000">.e.:</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><br>
</font></div>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;
border:none; padding:0px;">
<div><span style="font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal; text-decoration:
none;">(a) </span><span
style="text-indent: 0.5in;">Should
providers be required to forward hard
copy notices to registrants/customers,
on request, in cases where electronic
communications are known to be
undeliverable?</span></div>
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;">(b)
Should providers be permitted to charge
a reasonable fee to forward
non-electronic communications that incur
a cost to do so (this could include
monetary costs such as charges for
registered mail and/or other resource
costs such as man-hours to review/strip
out personal information from a
communication)?</span></div>
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;">(c) </span><span
style="text-indent: 0.5in;">If a
provider chooses not to forward an
allegation of illegal activity, should
there be an obligation for a provider to
inform a requestor when the provider
does not forward its request?</span></div>
</blockquote>
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;"><b>3.
Further discussion on Category F</b></span>–<span
style="text-indent: 0.5in;"> Reveal
(specific questions TBD depending on
extent of WG discussions between now and
10 October; see draft WG Templates and
current Preliminary Conclusions at</span></div>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg">https://community.icann.org/x/ihLRAg</a>)
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;"><b>4.
What aspects of the current temporary
P/P specification in the 2013 RAA should
be retained and/or expanded for the
accreditation program? What is not in
the current specification but should be?</b>
(See </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#privacy-proxy">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#privacy-proxy</a>)</div>
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<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;"><b>5.
What are the business practices that a
P/P provider should disclose to
potential and actual customers, as part
of the accreditation program?</b></span></div>
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</span></div>
<div><span style="text-indent: 0.5in;"><b>6.
Any other suggestions not already on
this list?</b></span></div>
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</span></div>
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<div>We attach also a suggested proposed agenda
for the day – including proposed “ground
rules” that have been found to have been
extremely useful for focusing discussions –
and a document on Collaborative Reminders
prepared by our professional facilitators that
similarly are intended to facilitate useful
constructive discussion and outcomes based on
the objectives of our session.</div>
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<div>On behalf of the WG chairs, we look forward
to your feedback on the topics for our LA
discussion. Please indicate your choices as
soon as possible and in any event by this <b>Friday
3 October</b>. Thank you!</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Mary</div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span"
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