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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi All,<br>
I may not be able to be on most of the call today, but I want to
note a bit of a disconnect between the work of the PPSAI in LA and
the earlier work of the draft being iterated on by Steve and
Volker. We're not consistent there... as I am sure everyone has
noticed.<br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
:<br>
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cite="mid:CADW+euuip+Pu1DNddbCsSe2HZCSH5OhwV71jVmWJ916X49mygw@mail.gmail.com"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)">FWIW,
there's also <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://yohost.org">yohost.org</a>. I think it's
technically unaffiliated, but all of the registrations I'm
aware of are with a single registrar. (Unsure if it's a
reseller relationship or what.) I'm not entirely sure what
"2-layer" means in this case. From their FAQs:</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(7,55,99)"><br>
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style="color:rgb(79,79,79);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px
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10px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-style:italic;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Q:
Do you handle domain registration?</p>
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style="color:rgb(79,79,79);font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;margin:0px;padding:0px
0px
30px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:16.7999992370605px;vertical-align:baseline">A:
We do offer private domain registration. Your domain WHOIS
will be protected with 2-layer privacy protection.</p>
<p class="" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px
30px;border:0px;font-stretch:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><font
color="#073763" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">We see
them in registrations for several of the websites we've
run up against, like the one for <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://smackjunkshot.com">smackjunkshot.com</a>
(selling heroin online), etc. </font></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Don
Blumenthal <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org" target="_blank">dblumenthal@pir.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">An
exhibit to our report? A screen with proper form
next to this one with an X through it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">At
least the page just asks for email in order to get
information about a pre-release beta. It’s not for
signing up.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="14956c419fb04b16__MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></a></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka</span></p>
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<div class="h5">
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Interesting,
and a nice test case, since compared to other
services we have seen, they seem to be operating
without any contact details on their website, or
any abuse policies.<br>
<br>
Volker</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 27.10.2014 22:16, schrieb
Don Blumenthal:</p>
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style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">They
are operating, even if at a very low level. I
stumbled across the company when I did a Whois
check on another domain.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Don</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Graeme Bunton [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gbunton@tucows.com"
target="_blank">mailto:gbunton@tucows.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 27, 2014 5:07
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Don Blumenthal; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Eureka</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Doesn't
appear to actually be operating.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Also,
run out of UPS Store in Montreal.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Graeme</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">_________________________
</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Graeme
Bunton </span>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Manager,
Management Information Systems
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Manager,
Public Policy
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Tucows
Inc. </span>
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">PH:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:416%20535%200123%20ext%201634"
value="+14165350123" target="_blank">416
535 0123 ext 1634</a>
</span></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">------
Original Message ------</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:
"Don Blumenthal" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dblumenthal@pir.org"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0563c1">dblumenthal@pir.org</span></a>></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To:
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0563c1">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a>></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sent:
10/27/2014 4:22:14 PM</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Eureka</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p>
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<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
#cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
hope I’m wrong, but I have the feeling
that not many others have shared my
concern about finding an unaffiliated p/p.
Regardless</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.shieldguard.org/"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0563c1">http://www.shieldguard.org/</span></a>.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Don</span></p>
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