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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Val,<br>
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On 2014-11-04 4:19 PM, Valeriya Sherman wrote:<br>
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dir="ltr"><font size="3">Phil/Graeme -- An IP owner
would know who they authorized to use the IP and who they
did not. The issue is that they do not know whether </font><font
size="3">a particular </font><font size="3">Customer</font><font
size="3">, whose identity is hidden, </font><font size="3">needs
authorization or not. In the example I provided</font><font
size="3"> earlier</font><font size="3">, where a Requestor
has rights in US but not in </font><font size="3">the </font><font
size="3">EU, it would be essential for him to know where
the Customer is located to establish whether the Customer
needs any authorization -- and that is </font><font
size="3">some of </font><font size="3">the information</font><font
size="3"> that</font><font size="3"> Disclosure </font><font
size="3"> w</font><font size="3">ould provide.</font></span></div>
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<font size="3">IP owners could also track the domains where their
customers are allowed to use their IP. <br>
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Remember, we're not really talking about any content here that is
hosted on a site with a domain under privacy, as the privacy
provider usually has no involvement with the hosting etc. There
are existing paths that deal with infringements that can be
applied, no matter if there is whois privacy or not.<br>
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But I also have to wonder if a partial disclosure of the
registrant's country would satisfy your need in this case. Not
that I support this either really.</font><br>
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<div><font size="3">Another point that came up during
our call is that an authorized party would respond
to a relay request. Lack of response to relays is
evidence of bad faith, but it doesn't obviate the
need for disclosure. </font><font size="3">As
noted above, a Customer may not need any
authorization, so </font><font size="3">his
failure to</font><font size="3"> reply</font><font
size="3"> to a relayed request</font><font
size="3"> is</font><font size="3"> not conclusive
evidence of his rights or lack thereof. Disclosure
is still needed. </font><font size="3"> </font><font
size="3"> </font></div>
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"Lack of response to relays is evidence of bad faith"? Why would
someone be obliged to respond to a message they receive, be it via
relay or not - and how do you ensure that its received?<br>
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Best regards,<br>
/FM<br>
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