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Hi Valeriya,<br>
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now you say it may be a factor in determining bad faith, but that is
not the same as what you initially wrote and I objected to. You
originally wrote:<br>
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<font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span dir="ltr"><font><font
size="3">"Lack of response to relays <b><big>is </big></b>evidence
of bad faith, but it doesn't obviate the need for
disclosure." <br>
<br>
That statement as originally written simply is not true.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 05.11.2014 23:22, schrieb Valeriya
Sherman:<br>
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Kiran.</font></span></div>
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<div>When I write that lack of a
response to relays of cease and desist
letters <font size="3">is a factor
evidencing bad faith</font>, I am not
basing it on personal opinions. It is
a factor that has long been accepted
in UDRP decisions:</div>
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<div><font size="3">(1) </font><font
size="3"><i>Pearson Education,
Inc v. CTP Internacional;
Private Registration at
Directi Internet Solutions
Pvt. Ltd. and <</i></font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scottforesmanandcompany.com"
target="_blank"><font size="3"><i>scottforesmanandcompany.com</i></font></a><font
size="3"><i>>,</i></font><font
size="3"> WIPO/D2009-0266
(noting that privacy-shielded
registrant's failure to reply to
cease-and-desist letter was a
"compounding" factor in finding
bad faith). </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0266.html"
target="_blank"><font size="3">http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0266.html</font></a><font
size="3"><br>
</font><font size="3"><br>
(2) </font><font size="3"><i>Advance
Magazine Publishers v. MSA,
Inc. and Moniker Privacy
Servs.</i></font><font
size="3">, WIPO/D2007-1743
(observing that privacy-shielded
registrant's failure to reply to
numerous communications
regarding its trademark
infringement was prominent among
several factors leading to a
finding of bad faith). </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2007/d2007-1743.html"
target="_blank"><font size="3">http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2007/d2007-1743.html</font></a><font
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<font size="3">(3) </font><font
size="3"><i>Fifth Third Bancorp v.
Secure Whois Information
Servs., </i></font><font
size="3">WIPO/D2006-0696 (finding
strong evidence of bad faith in
proxy-shielded respondent's
failure to respond to
correspondence and provision of
faulty contact information). </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2006/d2006-0696.html"
target="_blank"><font size="3">http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2006/d2006-0696.html</font></a><font
size="3">.</font><font size="3"><br>
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<font size="3">(4) </font><font
size="3"><i>TDS Telecomm'cns Corp.
v. Nevis Domains and Moniker
Privacy Servs</i></font><font
size="3">, .WIPO/D2006-1620 (finding
bad faith in a privacy-shielded
respondent's failure to reply to
cease-and-desist letters addressed
to its privacy service provider).</font><font
size="3"><br>
</font><font size="3"><a
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href="http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2006/d2006-1620.html"
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Val</div>
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<span dir="ltr" style="font-family:
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Sherman<br>
Silverberg, Goldman & Bikoff,
L.L.P.<br>
1101 30th Street, N.W.<br>
Suite 120<br>
Washington, D.C. 20007<br>
Tel 202.944.3300<br>
Cell 303.589.7477<br>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] on behalf of Kiran
Malancharuvil [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Volker Greimann; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Recap & Moving
Forward<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D">None of you seem to have read past what
you quoted. Val’s point is that it’s one thing (of
many MANY factors) that may (or may not) contribute to
a finding of bad faith. At no point does she claim
it’s a dispositive factor. I’m sure that no one here
believes that. Like she explicitly said… lack of
response doesn’t conclusively demonstrate rights or
lack thereof. Obviously it doesn’t.
Mischaracterizing statements does everyone in this
group a disservice and distracts from the actual
points being made.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D">Perhaps Val’s point (and if not, my
point) is that disclosure is necessary to help rights
owners begin a dialogue with the registrant about
whether or not they have legitimate rights. UDRP
filings and the back and forth that results from that
is unduly burdensome to brand owners and registrants
when a private dialogue will do. As you, we and other
have pointed out, it’s not just those we have licensed
that have a legitimate right to the name, but how do
we know if we don’t know who they are/where they are?
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">You are right, it is absolutely a
registrants prerogative to choose not to respond to a
relay request. But the issue should not end there. I
can refuse to respond to a subpoena, or refuse to pay
my credit card bill, or refuse to respond to the
government if the IRS requests an audit of my taxes.
That’s not the end of the story, there are
consequences to those actions. Perhaps there are
consequences to ignoring “legitimate” (whatever we
deem that to be) requests for information if certain
criteria are met in certain situations. I am not (at
this point) advocating one solution or another.. but I
would like to see language that suggests “absolutes”
disappear from our discussions.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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Kiran</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Kiran
Malancharuvil</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Policy
Counselor</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">MarkMonitor</span></p>
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(t)</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 05, 2014 1:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Recap
& Moving Forward</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry, but I smirked at this comment:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lack of response to relays is
evidence of bad faith, [...]. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Really? In my book, lack of response
is evidence of only one thing: Lack of response is
evidence of lack of response. Nothing more!<br>
<br>
There may be so many reasons why someone may decline to
respond that are not bad faith, your conclusion is far
fetched at best.
<br>
<br>
- Message was caught by spam filters<br>
- Message was accidentally deleted<br>
- Message message was not read<br>
- Message was considered spam and ignored<br>
- Recipient believed the message does not concern him<br>
- Recipient is in hospital/on vacation<br>
- Recipient got scared by the harsh language used even
though he is not actually infringing<br>
- Recipient just does not want to deal with this at this
time<br>
- Recipient choses not to respond<br>
<br>
And those are just off the top of my head.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Val</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Valeriya
Sherman<br>
Silverberg, Goldman & Bikoff, L.L.P.<br>
1101 30th Street, N.W.<br>
Suite 120<br>
Washington, D.C. 20007<br>
Tel 202.944.3300<br>
Cell 303.589.7477<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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on behalf of Phil Corwin [<a
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Don Blumenthal; Graeme Bunton; <a
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gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Recap
& Moving Forward</span></p>
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useful.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
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color:#1F497D">My only question regards this
sentence – “Shouldn't an IP rights holder know
who they've allowed to use it and for what? “
If “it” is a trademark/brand name, wouldn’t
the rights holder already know that?</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Don Blumenthal<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 04, 2014
9:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Graeme Bunton; <a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Recap & Moving Forward</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
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very helpful.
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<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Recap
& Moving Forward</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">For
my own benefit I thought it useful to try and
capture highlights from the recent list
discussion. Apologies if I've
mis-characterized any of your arguments. I
was trying to collect and aggregate them for
my own understanding, and perhaps this is also
useful for others.<br>
<br>
In general, we're still discussing
disclosure. This has created two related
threads of conversation, one around the
definition of content, another for allegations
of IP infringement, though they mostly
overlap.<br>
<br>
Before we get to that, Eric Brunner-Williams,
via Michele introduced some language that I
thought was interesting and helpful, at least
for introducing some precision in our
discussions. This was, If I am understanding
correctly, that we can break down some issues
into two groups:<br>
<br>
String issues: problems directly related to
the string of characters that constitute a
domain name<br>
Resolved resource issues: problems related to
what a domain name is pointed at<br>
<br>
I think it's worthwhile for us to discuss
using those terms going forward.<br>
<br>
<b>Re: Allegations of IP Infringement and
Disclosure & what constitutes content</b>
<br>
Phil Corwin raised concerns about relaying
registrant details upon an allegation of
infringement. He pointed out that UDRP and
URS exist for string issues, and that
complaints are frequently dismissed and
reverse domain hijacking is increasing.
Mandatory disclosure does not, to Phil,
'facilitate resolution'. Valeriya was
suggesting that having access to registrant
details prior to filing a UDRP may eliminate
the need for the potential UDRP, as it better
enables the rights holder to determine if a
UDRP is warranted. <br>
<br>
We collectively batted this around for a bit,
main points being: </span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">the
cost of a UDRP may be a useful gate to
prevent abuse
</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">'cybersquating'
and stockpiling domain names are not
necessarily examples of bad faith use.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Disclosure
being helpful for the requestor does not by
itself justify the disclosure
</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">UDRP
filings due to the subsequent publishing of
details are generally worse for the
registrant than disclosure
</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Disclosure
rather than publish may keep the customer
for the provider.
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I
don't think we resolved much from this
discussion, but perhaps it clarified the
positions.</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">To
me, and perhaps someone can clarify, it seems
like the request for disclosure on allegation
of infringement is to be used to fill in a
rights holders' information gap. Shouldn't
an IP rights holder know who they've allowed
to use it and for what? Should we be building
this mechanism, given the potential for abuse
and the importance of protecting registrant
privacy?</span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">The
separate thread around the definition of
content, if i may borrow a phrase from Steve,
generated more heat than light. It ended up
centering around the issue that most
privacy/proxy service providers reserve the
right to unilaterally terminate service to a
customer, without due process, while also
insisting that disclosing registrant details
to a 3rd party upon IP infringement allegation
was itself violation of due process. Volker
and Frank pointed out that providers reserve
the right to protect themselves, and may not
use it lightly. </span></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Which
lastly brings us to the discussion on a
moderate central course of action.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">James
had suggested that we look into the
authorization and identification of 3rd party
requestors. It's not a bad idea, though I
suspect easier to implement for larger
providers, so it might be worth hearing an
opinion from others.<br>
<br>
I'm going to circle back to some of the
discussions and proposals that registrars had
worked on privately, and will see if that can
be made ready for prime time. I'd encourage
everyone to ponder ways forward on this issue,
as we move on to category G to make a bit of
headway before circling back.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Graeme </span></p>
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