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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on Tuesday 20 January 2015 at 15:00 UTC. at:<span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span></font><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20jan15-en.mp3" style="font-size: medium;"><font face="Calibri">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-20jan15-en.mp3</font></a><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"> </font><font face="Calibri" size="3" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan</a><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font face="Calibri" size="3">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page<span style="color:#1F497D">:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><font face="Calibri" size="3">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</font></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <font size="3" face="Calibri"><u>Attendees:</u> <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Frank Michlick – Individual<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Justin Macy - BC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Val Sherman – IPC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: white; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Griffin Barnett – IPC</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Kathy Kleiman – NCSG<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Phil Corwin – BC</font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Darcy Southwell – RrSG</font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Todd Williams – IPC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">David Heasley - IPC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Chris Pelling - RrSG</font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Steve Metalitz - IPC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Graeme Bunton – RrSG</font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Carlton Samuels – ALAC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Luc Seufer – RrSG<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font size="3" face="Calibri">Christian Dawson – ISPCP</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Alex Deacon -IPC<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jim Bikoff - IPC</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Tatiana Khramtsova - RrSG</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michele Neylon- RrSG</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Susan Prosser - RrSG</div>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><u><font face="Calibri" size="3">Apologies :<o:p></o:p></font></u></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;">Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Sarah Wyld – RrSG<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Holly Raiche <span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">–</span> ALAC</font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><o:p> </o:p>Richard Leaning – no SOI</font></p>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">James Bladel – RrSG</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Stephanie Perrin - NCSG</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Marika Konings</div>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><u>ICANN staff:</u><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Mary Wong</font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Daniela Andela<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Nathalie Peregrine<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span lang="FR" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"> <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Mailing list archives:<span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg/</a><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Wiki page:<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg">https://community.icann.org/x/9iCfAg</a><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="color: black;"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Nathalie<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"> <b><u>Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday 20 January 2015</u></b><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" size="3"> <o:p></o:p> Terri Agnew:Dear All, Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting on the 20 January 2015</font></p>
<div> Chris Pelling:afternoon all</div>
<div> Val Sherman:Hello all</div>
<div> Michele Neylon:can't dial in for now - on another call</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Susan Prosser and Carlon Samuels have joined</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:Morning all</div>
<div> Graeme Bunton:Thanks Don</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:ChristianDawson has joined the calll</div>
<div> Don Blumenthal:I figured I would do something substantive by asking for the SOI changes.</div>
<div> Graeme Bunton:Section 1.3.1</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:As long as the implementation WG doesn't come up with crazy requirements (attchament siez limit etc)</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:So footnote to para 12: However, each P/P Provider shall implement this "standardized form" in its own way -- including by website, email, etc</div>
<div> Graeme Bunton:Sure, sounds fine</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:I think that captures it Steve</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:@Kathy's +1</div>
<div> Mary Wong:@Steve, we can move up #16 to facilitate reading and organization</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:Forward doesn't imply that PP provider will actually acknowledge (read) the communications but solely transmit them automatically to the applicable registrants, right?</div>
<div> Alex Deacon:In 14 - Are the references to "Category E" and "Category B Question 2" out of context in the summary section?</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:"automated telephone calls" Steve you mentioned this ?</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Automated phone calls???</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:thanks Steve</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:yeah, what the heck is that ?</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:Yeah I dont either</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:Sorry, no to automated phone calls</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:we cannot accept calls and them type them out to relay them</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:It's confusing!</div>
<div> Mary Wong:@Graeme, yes, SMS/text messaging came up but there was no agreement on how to deal with them, or whether to include a mention of them.</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:I would pipe up but my voice is killing me</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:or we remove it all together</div>
<div> Chris Pelling:+1 Luc</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:We should leave it open to other forms of communications!</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:@Steve: Yes +1</div>
<div> Mary Wong:@Steve, @Carlton, that was the idea :)</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:can't wait for hologram calls!</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Does 16 work with regard to Reveal?</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:I think so...</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:its starts by stating so in its current version</div>
<div> Val Sherman:Might it be better to say “any practice of providers” instead of “prevailing practice among providers”?</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:+1 Steve, agree OK to delete relay in 16</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:I think so to</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Shall we just delete the word "prevailing"?</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:even if we wanted to I know of no technical system that could allow us to automatically reveal</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:can you read it out loud, Steve?</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:What is Category B, Question 2?</div>
<div> Mary Wong:@Steve, that's right - the point you noted isn't one that we have WG consensus on yet, so it's in 1.3.2 instead.</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Tx Steve!</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Noted, Steve, thanks :)</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Agree about making this understandable to all...</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:RAA 2013</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Yes, it's from the RAA</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:I don't think it should go in a footnote -- but perhaps a later paragraph</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Use "a common" versus "the prevailing"?</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Switch 16 and 17? Does that make it clearer to anyone?</div>
<div> Graeme Bunton:It's not outrageously incongruous to me. Perhaps Kathy is right and we should put it behind 17</div>
<div> Val Sherman:+1 Kathy</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Oops, just saw typos in the first bullet point of 17 - will fix.</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:@Kathy re switching 16 & 17: Maybe it would</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Re: bullet 4, did we (WG) agree that P/P provider must respond to each and every request for a Reveal?</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Consider situations where the request is bizarre (e.g., diapers), or redundant/multiple (e.g., 25 requests)</div>
<div> Graeme Bunton:We may want soem language in there to help with that, good point Kathy</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:agreed</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:how to revamp?</div>
<div> Mary Wong:@Steve, yes I think that's right - we've assumed but should prob make it explicit</div>
<div> Mary Wong:Absolutely!</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:@Kathy by adding another bullet precising this apply to reasonable request in terms of their scope, number...</div>
<div> Don Blumenthal: Yep. :)</div>
<div> Mary Wong:For clarity - this language in #17 is carried over from documents from early October.</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:@Steve: +1</div>
<div> Kathy Kleiman:Tx Steve!</div>
<div> Luc Seufer:thanks Steve!</div>
<div> Graeme Bunton:Thanks for Chairing Steve</div>
<div> Carlton Samuels:Thanks Steve and all. Went smoothly!</div>
<div> Val Sherman:Thanks all!</div>
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