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I believe Mary said she was going to check back with the calendar
and then do the doodle....Calendar for Friday is already getting
jammed. SUch busy lives we live. :-)<br>
SP<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-03-03 17:53, Michele Neylon -
Blacknight wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We
all have obligations, both personal and professional<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">At
this juncture I think we’re all just examining possibilities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">To
be frank I wasn’t aware that a face to face meeting in BA
was a possibility until earlier today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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many people can or cannot attend a face to face meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kiran Malancharuvil<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Corwin; Mary Wong;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Hi Guys,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I am staunchly opposed to adding more days to
the ICANN schedule. Many of us have family and work
obligations that make the existing schedule almost
impossible. Adding days onto the already burdensome
schedule will create a problem where we risk eliminating
important voices and viewpoints because participation
becomes problematic.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Can we brainstorm a solution where we have more
frequent shorter meetings throughout the week?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US"><br>
Kiran<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Corwin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mary Wong; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I would urge looking at the 19<sup>th</sup>
rather than the 26<sup>th</sup>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">I am one of the few people who participated in
both the LA F2F of this WG and the Singapore F2F of the IGO
WG.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">While the meetings were not directly comparable
in terms of travel distance (for me), overall meeting
workload intensity, and personal responsibility (I Co-Chair
the IGO WG), it is still my overall opinion that, if a F2F
meeting is appropriate for PPSAI in June, it will be much
better to hold it on the Friday before the ICANN meeting
starts in terms of focus and productivity.. Participants may
be jetlagged but they are still fresh. By the time the
Friday after the meeting arrives many participants are spent
physically and especially psychologically.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Face to face?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"
lang="EN-US">As mentioned on the call, policy staff are
currently checking to see what other meetings have
already been scheduled for Friday 19 June that may
involve a number of our WG and/or GNSO participants.
Assuming there is no major conflict found, we will
follow up with a Doodle poll to see which day/date works
best for most people.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"
lang="EN-US">We thought we should also note that it will
likely be very difficult to try to schedule the WG
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Friday 19 or Friday 26 June), since that will likely add
substantially to the travel costs for many people who
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poll should be limited to one or the other Friday if
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<pre><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">All
While I am in favour of a face to face meeting like we had in LA, I would be opposed to holding it after the main ICANN meeting for a variety of reasons.
After a full week of meetings (many of us have activities scheduled over the weekend prior to the official opening) most of us are exhausted by Thursday and probably wouldn't be mentally or physically at our best for a productive meeting on the Friday.
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