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Right. If a PDP decided to abolish all Whois data but the initials
of the registrant, that would still allow ICANN to live up to the
document.<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.03.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Michele
Neylon - Blacknight:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">Terri<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">The key words in there are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">“existing policy” – that’s subject to change and
there are more than half a dozen current WHOIS related
activities ongoing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">“applicable laws”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">Both .cat and .tel whois is compliant with EU data
privacy law and protects the rights of private individuals
BUT allows for access to data to LEA <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">See:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://fundacio.cat/ca/whois-access">http://fundacio.cat/ca/whois-access</a>
for example<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="GA">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Mr
Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland
Company No.: 370845<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Terri Stumme<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 March 2015 05:08<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephanie Perrin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] [GNSO-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Openness of WHOIS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">While this
is true, we cannot ignore the Affirmation of
Commitments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">9.3.1 </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">ICANN</span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> additionally
commits to enforcing its existing policy relating to </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">WHOIS</span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">,
subject to applicable laws. Such existing policy
requires that </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">ICANN</span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> implement
measures to maintain timely, unrestricted and public
access to accurate and complete </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">WHOIS </span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">information,
including registrant, technical, billing, and
administrative contact information. One year from the
effective date of this document and then no less
frequently than every three years thereafter, </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">ICANN</span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> will
organize a review of </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">WHOIS</span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> policy
and its implementation to assess the extent to which </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">WHOIS</span><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> policy
is effective and its implementation meets the legitimate
needs of law enforcement and promotes consumer trust. </span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:13 PM,
Stephanie Perrin <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Further to our discussion this
morning about the openness (or otherwise) of WHOIS,
here is the quote I was referring to from the SSAC
document 003, from 2003:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In
order for Whois data to be readily available it
must be both accessible and usable by
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">automatic
tools. To be accessible the Whois protocol must be
updated to support the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">recent
shift in the architecture to separate the functions
of the registry and the registrar.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This
shift has made it impractical to support
searching and frequently makes it difficult to
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">find
Whois services. To be usable the data returned
by Whois services must in be a
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">common
format.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">However,
being accessible and usable must also protect
a registrant's privacy. Many
</span></b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">countries
require that personal information is protected
but in addition registrants may
</span></b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">wish
to discourage the unintended, undesirable, and
otherwise unwanted uses of their
</span></b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Whois
data. In particular, it is widely believed
that Whois data is a source of email
</span></b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">addresses
for the distribution of spam. Methods must be
developed to discourage the
</span></b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">harvesting
or mining of Whois information</span></b><span
style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">.<br>
<br>
I interpret this as support for the notion that
there have been reservations from parties other
than civil
<br>
society, with respect to the concept of all
WHOIS data being freely available, from the
early days of ICANN.<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">Stephanie Perrin</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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