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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group call held on </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tuesday
24 March <span style="color:black">2015 at 15:00 </span>UTC at<span style="color:#1F497D">:</span></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-24mar15-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ppsa-24mar15-en.mp3</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On page</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#m</span></a><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#mar"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ar</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u>Attendees:</u> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Frank Michlick – Individual<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Justin Macy - BC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Val Sherman – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Griffin Barnett – IPC</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kathy Kleiman – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Darcy Southwell – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Todd Williams – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Steve Metalitz - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Graeme Bunton – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jim Bikoff - IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Holly Raiche – ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kiran Malancharuvil – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Volker Greimann – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alex Deacon –IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Stephanie Perrin – NCSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Tatiana Khramtsova – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Susan Kawaguchi - BC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Terri Stumme – BC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Phil Corwin – BC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Luc Seufer – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Chris Pelling – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Paul McGrady – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Susan Prosser – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Michael Palage-RySG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Vicky Sheckler – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">David Heasley – IPC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Carlton Samuels - ALAC</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Apologies :</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Don Blumenthal – RySG <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Richard Leaning – no soi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">James Bladel – RrSG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Lindsay Hamilton-Reid – RrSG</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ICANN staff:</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Danielle Andela<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Yolanda Jimenez<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the PPSAI WG Meeting of 24 March 2015<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Hello everyone, this meeting will being in 20 minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:sounds loud and clear<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:sounds great<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Holly Raiche:Morning all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:Morning Holly!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Chris Pelling:afternoon all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Vicky Sheckler:hi<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> val sherman:David Heasley also on audio bridge<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> val sherman:hi Vicky<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> val sherman:and all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Alex Deacon<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Alex Deacon:Hello all...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:on Audio Terri Stumme and Susan Prosser<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Darcy Southwell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Kiran Malancharuvil has joined audio<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> steve metalitz:I have not voted and I do not vote for a Friday session.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:When did the "second" doodle poll go out?
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Luc Seufer:Paul there will be beers and steaks, just come!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:@Kiran, on Thursday 19 March<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:There are beers and steaks at more pleasant venues as well.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Volker Greimann:a windowless room at that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Volker Greimann:Kiran, i like your suggestion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Luc Seufer:yeah but a bunch of merry fellows make up for it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Volker Greimann:PPSAI working meeting with beer and steaks.... I have a feeling we will get a lot done<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:That was Luc's suggestion. I have no desire for this meeting.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:@Volker, we actually have reserved the nice room - the one on the top floor with all the windows :)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:@Mary - It looks like the poll is now 7 to 7?
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:We got two other votes by email for Friday<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Volker Greimann:I know the room and it is worth the extra time to have at least some time during that meeting in a room with a view. We will be back in the darkened cloister soon enough<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:Or we could spend that time not in a meeting...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:Would someone like to read current IIIC5 text?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:@Todd, from the staff perspective the "answer" is that we didn't feel we could delete III.C.5 entirely given last week's discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Luc Seufer:it seems in C.5 that's the registrant who is proactive<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:Sorry, just saw that I think that should be "clear and convincing"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Jim Bikoff has joined audio<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:Suggestion - add Customer's provision of a reasonable defense as an illustrative e.g. of adequate reasons for refusal under C(2)?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:And change C(5) to specifically address the human rights concern<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:+1 Vicky. Good point about the distinction<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlton Samuels:Morning everybody. Dropping in for a limited time. Duty in paid work calls<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Carlton<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> steve metalitz:@Stephanie, this applies only to disclosure to the requester.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:we should make that crystal clear then<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:@Stephanie - see D. below<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:Sorry, E.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:@but those private purposes can include harassment, anticompetitive activity, and
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:removal of criticism<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:it happens a lot... <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:so once the reveal is done, we have disclosed the Customer's address - and that's a big deal<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Holly Raiche:It is really aboutequal standards. Are we not recognising a person's right to privacy - proecing their identity unless there is a clear (insert agreed language) reason<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlton Samuels:I think the balance is to be fair to all interests and achieve this without resorting to the judicial process.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:@Steph, re human rights language - no decision as of yet as to where to put it. Staff drafted the alternatives/description that follows in the next couple of pages for discussion. One possibility is to craft C.(5) to do this.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:No- I dont' think it meets all of the concerns<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:+1 Stephanie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlton Samuels:@Steph: Yes +1. Let's state the broader principle. We need to ensure we don't disconnect a right from a person anywhere without due process.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Todd Williams:@Stephanie: the title is "Disclosure standards", and we've already made the distinction elsewhere b/w "disclosure" (to the complainant) and "publication" (to the world)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:It bears repetition here Todd, as this is getting to be a long and somewhat arcane document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlton Samuels:We need to establish room to determine what is a reasonable balance. And not run pell mell into granting advantage to one group that ordinarily they would need a court to decide.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Holly Raiche:2 Carlton +1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:@Kathy, UDRP and URS are mandatory administrative proceedings where a professional neutral makes the decision.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:If we were drafting legislation, we would be charied by our legal drafters to avoid repetition. Since this is not a law, but a standard that will be read by a lot of non-legal practitioners, I would argue for clarity,
clear exposition of first principles, and a certain amount of repetition where it is important to remember the balance of rights.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Luc Seufer:@Mary a similar system for disclosure/reveal would make sense to me<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:@Mary: in the real world, this would go to court... before a reveal.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:so we are setting the standards...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kathy:Tx Mary!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> steve metalitz:+1 to Todd that pretext could be delat with specifically if necessary<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> steve metalitz:dealt with<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:I would very much prefer to deal with the text in Section II on agency. Why are we restricting that discussion to the list?
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:+1 Carlton, we do need to remember that we are attempting to set up a process that avoids Court.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Graeme Bunton:wasn't attempting to restrict, Kiran<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Luc Seufer:we will, after we have heard about Berryhill's experience ;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:Yeah exactly Luc. So we skip over it today so we have time to discuss Berryhill's "expertise"?
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Holly Raiche:We are also trying to make life a bit easy for registrars so they have clarity on when to reveal, as well as certainty (or close to) for the registrant on whether and in what circumstances their details will be revealed
to the requestor<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:@Holly +1 indeed!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Volker Greimann:Steve +1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Stephanie Perrin:@Kiran I am confused by your query re Mr. Berryhill.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:Are we skipping over discussions on Section II in order to make more time to discuss the use of "experts" such as Mr. Berryhill? What is unclear about that query?
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> steve metalitz:@Kathy, one option is to present annex in draft report as "some options" as its title states and ask their views. Perhaps not ideal but possible.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:Because that's fine, but I would have appreciated a heads up on that.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Holly Raiche:@ Paul - suggested words?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:Staff suggests not specifying titles - these may mean different things in different types of legal jurisdictions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mary Wong:e.g. "attorney" (not a term used in all jurisdictions nor do all require a "bar" membership to practice law); "General Partner", "Principal" ...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:There are a lot of non-attorney's on the list that are representatives of this "side" of the issue<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:"this side" being the IP requestor side<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:This is not a court proceeding. It is not a subpoena... it does not need ot be restricted to agents of the court<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Susan Kawaguchi:I am not an attorney and have submitted a substantial number of reveal requests
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Vicky Sheckler:@kathy - are you suggestion that rightsholders that can't afford a legal rep can't use this process? I know rightsholders who address online infringing activity themselves.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Susan Kawaguchi:and have dones so with full knowledge of the law<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Kiran Malancharuvil:There is a misplaced sense of superiority associated with this section IMO<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Luc Seufer:Merci<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Darcy Southwell:Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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