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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tx to Todd and Volker for the
discussion. I have to admit I am torn. On the one hand, I think it
is very important to clarity that we are talking about human
rights concerns -- the "complex speech cases" or as Carlton has
said "the fringe cases." On the other hand, I recognize that there
is a reluctance to use the words "human rights." I also see
Todd's balance and wording to address clearly and specifically the
complex issues we have discussed for so long. <br>
<br>
I like Todd's new phrasing below:<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“that the
Customer has provided, or the Provider has found,
</span><span style="color:#44546A">specific</span><span
style="color:red"> facts and circumstances showing
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">that the Requestor’s
trademark or copyright complaint is a pretextual means of
obtaining the Customer’s contact details
</span><span style="color:red">solely </span><span
style="color:#1F497D">for the purpose of contravening the
Customer’s human rights
</span><span style="color:red">(e.g., freedom of expression).</span><span
style="color:#44546A">”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<span style="color:red"><br>
<font color="#330033">Building on Volker's revised phrasing,
does the following cover the same topics and strike a new
balance:<br>
</font></span>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#1F497D">“that the Customer has provided, or the
Provider has found,
</span><span style="color:#44546A">specific</span><span
style="color:red"> information, facts and/or circumstances
indicating
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">that the Requestor’s
trademark or copyright complaint is a pretextual means of
obtaining the Customer’s contact details
</span><span style="color:red">mainly </span><span
style="color:#1F497D">for the purpose of contravening the
Customer’s <strike>privacy</strike></span><strike><span
style="color:red">.</span></strike><span
style="color:#44546A"> <font color="#009900">legitimate
rights and protections (e.g., freedom of expression and
freedom of association).</font>” [with a descriptive
paragraph in the Policy to describe the complex/difficult
cases we (PPSAI) intended to be covered and included.]<br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
size="+1"><br>
Todd? Volker? All?<br>
</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
size="+1">Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font
size="+1"></font>:<br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you
Volker. Would be interested to hear what others have to
say, but I’m OK with the changes that you’ve outlined below
except for the change from “human rights (e.g., freedom of
expression)” to “privacy.” Several thoughts on that one:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3
level1 lfo7">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:#1F497D">I specifically included the reference
to “freedom of expression” per Kathy’s request in our call
last week to make that explicit, so I’d want to hear her
thoughts before we remove it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3
level1 lfo7">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:#1F497D">There’s been a general sentiment –
expressed most recently by Stephanie in our 3-24 call – that
some reference to the human rights “edge cases” that we’ve
been discussing needs to be explicit in the document. I
think there are two options on the table to do so: 1) do it
here; or 2) do it in the much longer “appendix” on human
rights/complex case advisory group that we discussed
earlier. As I’ve argued on the calls and below, I think
that this option more exactly and unambiguously addresses
the “edge case” concerns than did the previous appendix (or
the previous “clear and convincing” language in III(C)(5),
for that matter). So if by removing the reference to human
rights here, we instead have to go back to square one on
discussing and debating the longer appendix, I’d be against
doing so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:40.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3
level1 lfo7">
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style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:#1F497D">I think substituting “privacy” for
“human rights” confuses the means and ends of what we’re
trying to address, and makes III(C)(5) somewhat circular.
By definition, any time there is a disclosure, the
beneficial user’s privacy is lessened to some extent. The
language in III(C)(5) is not meant to preclude that as an
end in itself – if it did, it would make the rest of the
document moot. Rather, III(C)(5) precludes Requesters from
submitting pretextual complaints in order to then <b><i>misuse</i></b>
the disclosure process that we’ve developed as an improper
<b><i>means</i></b> to a totally <b><i>different</i></b> <b><i>end</i></b>:
namely, the end of somehow impinging on the Customer’s human
rights. I think that we need to keep that distinction clear
for III(C)(5) to work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">My initial
thoughts; happy to hear what others have to say.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Todd. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Revised Reveal
Doc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Todd, <br>
<br>
not having discussed this with anyone else, I'd feel more
comforable with language along the lines of:<span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#1F497D">“that the Customer has provided, or
the Provider has found,
</span><span style="color:#44546A">specific</span><span
style="color:red"> information, facts and/or circumstances
indicating
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">that the Requestor’s
trademark or copyright complaint is a pretextual means of
obtaining the Customer’s contact details
</span><span style="color:red">mainly </span><span
style="color:#1F497D">for the purpose of contravening the
Customer’s privacy</span><span style="color:red">.</span><span
style="color:#44546A">”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<br>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
Solely is too strong, and needs to be toned down as even a
partial connection to a potential violation would otherwise
close this door.<br>
I removed human rights as this is mainly about privacy. <br>
Showing was also toned down to indicating. The provider is not
a court, he cannot make legal determinations, but he can
accept indications.<br>
Finally, information was added to facts and circumstances, as
again, the provider cannot make factual decisions in every
case and should be able to rely on information.<br>
<br>
VG<br>
VG<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 02.04.2015 um 18:15 schrieb Williams,
Todd:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Following on
our call on Tuesday, I’ve tried to incorporate the changes
that others suggested to the language for III(C)(5) that I
had proposed last week. New language below (changes in
</span><span style="color:red">red</span><span
style="color:#1F497D">). Let me know if I didn’t capture
any of what we discussed:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“that the
Customer has provided, or the Provider has found,
</span><span style="color:#44546A">specific</span><span
style="color:red"> facts and circumstances showing
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">that the Requestor’s
trademark or copyright complaint is a pretextual means of
obtaining the Customer’s contact details
</span><span style="color:red">solely </span><span
style="color:#1F497D">for the purpose of contravening the
Customer’s human rights
</span><span style="color:red">(e.g., freedom of
expression).</span><span style="color:#44546A">”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Also, just to
reiterate what I mentioned on the call: yes, I did intend
this new language in III(C)(5) to replace the old language
in III(C)(5) (on the “slam dunk” standard) and the
previous draft appendix on human rights. For the reasons
that I mentioned on the call and below, I think that this
language more exactly and unambiguously addresses the
concerns that we’ve been discussing, without otherwise
disrupting the balance that the draft proposal has
attempted to strike.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Todd. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="color:windowtext"> Kathy Kleiman [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 30, 2015 1:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Williams, Todd; Kiran Malancharuvil; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>; Metalitz, Steven;
Graeme Bunton<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Revised Reveal
Doc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I have been
mulling over the wording that Todd proposed on Friday. I
think it should be evaluated alongside the standard we were
evaluating (a "clear and convincing") as a reason for
disclosure -- and I would like to hear what the Providers
think. But I think it advances our discussion... tx Todd!
<br>
<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 3/27/2015 5:45 PM, Williams, Todd
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">All:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I wanted to
follow-up on the point that I raised below and in our
call on Tuesday. To reiterate: I think that III(C)(5)
can be more precisely drafted to address the concern
that we’re dealing with – which, as I understand it, is
the risk that pretextual complaints may be brought for
the purpose of violating at-risk users’ human rights.
Assuming that is the risk that we’re trying to mitigate,
what does everybody think of this proposed draft
language:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">C.
Disclosure can be reasonably refused for reasons
consistent with the general policy stated herein,
including but not limited to:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">
(5) that the Customer has provided, or the
Provider has found, specific evidence demonstrating that
the Requestor’s trademark or copyright complaint is a
pretextual means of obtaining the Customer’s contact
details for the purpose of contravening the Customer’s
human rights.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Again, I
think that more exactly and unambiguously addresses the
risk that we’ve been discussing in the various
hypothetical scenarios that Kathy and others have put
forward. But I’m happy to discuss further on Tuesday.
Thanks as always.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
Todd.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Williams, Todd<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 23, 2015 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kiran Malancharuvil; Kathy Kleiman; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">
gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>; Metalitz, Steven;
Graeme Bunton<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Revised
Reveal Doc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Yes, thank you Kathy for
circulating. Two initial quick thoughts that I wanted to
circulate to the WG now before the call (though like
Kiran, I'd want to reserve comment on other portions as I
review):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
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style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->The more that I’ve
thought about III(C)(5), the more I think it’s a poor fit
for what we’re trying to address. As I understand it from
the hypotheticals that we’ve discussed, the concern is
that complainants with improper motives will use
pretextual complaints to seek disclosure against
vulnerable or otherwise at-risk beneficial users. But
III(C)(5) doesn’t really address pretext or the subjective
motives of the complainant at all. Rather, it simply
outlines the standard to be used in all cases. Perhaps
having a higher standard could weed out some pretextual
complaints. But not necessarily.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo4">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->We could certainly think of
hypotheticals where the complainant may have pretextual or
improper motives, but still puts forward a claim that on
its face passes the III(C)(5) standard.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2
level1 lfo4">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->On the other side, I’m sure
we could also think of hypotheticals where the complainant
has completely pure motives, but still has one or two
parts of its trademark or copyright claim that it’s still
trying to pin down (in fact, that may be the very reason
why it is seeking information on who the beneficial owner
is).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:.5in">I think
III(C)(5) as currently drafted allows for disclosure in
(1) but not (2) – which seems backwards to me. In other
words, if we’re trying to fight pretext, let’s fight
pretext. As it is, I think the draft already does a good
job of that:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo6">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->I(B)(v) contemplates
revoking access for having filed a pretextual complaint.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo6">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->I(B)(vi) contemplates
Providers sharing information about pretextual
complaints.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo6">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->II(A)(7), II(B)(7), and
II(C)(7) all contemplate that complaints will be submitted
under penalty of perjury (with all of the deterrence
against pretext that goes with that).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo6">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->The entire Annex outlines
possibilities for handling disputes that arise from
pretextual complaints.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="text-indent:.5in">If we want
to discuss as a WG whether the draft should do more on
pretext, or perhaps add some language about pretext to
III(C)(2) or III(C)(3), we can. But I think that trying
to fit that square peg (pretext concerns) into a round
hole (the III(C)(5) standard) isn’t the best way to do it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo2">
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"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->I like your edits
Kathy to III(D), but can we as a WG agree to remove the
brackets from III(D)? I’m not quite sure why it’s still
bracketed. We’re already editing it (which seems
pointless if it might just go away). And without III(D),
the entire rest of the document – which we’ve now spent
weeks trying to get to a place approaching consensus – is
moot.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks as always.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><br>
Todd. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Behalf Of Kiran Malancharuvil<br>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:23 PM<br>
To: Kathy Kleiman; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>;
Metalitz, Steven; Graeme Bunton<br>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Revised Reveal Doc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Kathy,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks for forwarding this to the
group, and special thanks for forwarding with enough time
to review before the call!
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">We can certainly discuss in more
depth on the call tomorrow, but I am not a fan of the
changes in Section II. I'm concerned about the level of
minutiae in the language, and I'm wondering how and why
that level of micromanagement will be helpful/probative
information to the Service Provider. In very large
companies, the trademark owner/president/VP/partner, etc.
isn't actually involved directly in the enforcement
activity. It should be enough to demonstrate agency, as
the previous language did. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Perhaps I will have more later, but
I wanted to float that to the group before the call.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kiran<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kiran Malancharuvil<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a
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On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 11:19
AM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>;
Metalitz, Steven; Graeme Bunton<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Revised
Reveal Doc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Steve and I talked on Friday, and he
asked me to circulate a Revised Reveal document -- which
is attached. This document has three types of changes
based on our discussion last Tuesday and subsequent
research:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">1. To the title (reset pending
further discussion) 2. To Section II, the Request
Templates to clarify the requester and his/her direct
knowledge of the alleged infringement and legal authority
to represent the Requester, and 3. Annex (reset to
original pending discussion with drafters over the narrow
goals and intents of this section)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">All other edits remain - to continue
our excellent discussion of high standards for disclosure,
human rights issues, etc. There is also much to discuss
regarding follow-up processes (after the Request)
including<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">a) when are appeals allowed and for
whom, and b) how does a Provider challenge an alleged
"wrongful disclosure" of its Customer's information?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Best and have a good rest of
weekend,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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