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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As the original drafter of the III(C)(5) language that we’re debating, I’m concerned that we’ve moved far away from the original purpose behind the language.
So with that, and in the hopes of bridging the divide that has sprung up as to whether the final term at the end of the clause should be “human rights,” or “privacy rights,” or “privacy”, or “PII” – what if we instead went with:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(5) that the Customer has provided, or the Provider has found, specific information, facts, and/or circumstances showing that the Requestor’s trademark or copyright
complaint is a pretextual means of obtaining the Customer’s contact details for some other purpose unrelated to addressing the alleged infringement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Again, that gets to what III(C)(5) is really meant to address: the edge-case examples that Kathy and others have put forward of a Requestor submitting a pretextual
complaint in order to get information about a battered women’s shelter, minority religious group, anti-gang advocacy group, etc. Yet it also addresses the concerns that Volker and others have raised about including the term “human rights.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Perrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Section III-C-(5)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">PII and this definition relates to individuals. If the proxy registration is for a battered women's shelter, the address and phone number do not relate to an individual or at least do not lead to the identification
of an individual. I think using PII (which is different from PI, and not what is usually found in data protection law) leads us into waters that we dont need to enter. We must remember that proxy services are used for groups, even companies.<br>
Stephanie P<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2015-04-14 12:03, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Kathy,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">How does Terri’s language exclude those groups?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Kiran</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Section III-C-(5)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Terry,<br>
I much prefer the original language since we are also working with the privacy and speech protections also of political groups, battered women's shelters, minority religious groups, Mom- and home-based small businesses, etc. -- the wide array of legitimate
groups, organizations and businesses that use proxy/privacy providers. <br>
Best,<br>
Kathy<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#18376A">Perhaps I am over-simplifying, but since agreement has not been reached on the current language, and III-C-(3) actually gives the provider quite a bit of lee-way to decide against
disclosure, I propose the following: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#18376A">the Provider has found, specific information, facts and/or circumstances that reveal the Requestor's trademark or copyright complaint is a pretextual means of obtaining the Customer's contact details solely for
the purpose of contravening the Customer's personally identifiable information.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><b>Personally identifiable information</b> (PII) is any data that could potentially <b>identify</b> a specific individual. Any <b>information</b> that can be used to distinguish one person from another and can be used for de-anonymizing
anonymous data can be considered PII.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;background:#9FC5E8">Terri Stumme</span></i>
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