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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">But Mary, the questions could indeed be
      a bit less one-sided. We did also talk about a) the German law
      that requires identification of appropriate businesses and their
      locations (but not all organizations raising funds for any
      reason); b) the limited mandate and scope of ICANN; c) the
      difficulty of distinguishing across the spectrum and not treating
      a mom-owned home business like an Amazon. <br>
      <br>
      It seems like a simple question into you dive into the
      complexities... and that's what I think Stephanie and I and others
      would like to shed light on -- even and especially in this Interim
      Report. <br>
      <br>
      Best,<br>
      Kathy<br>
      <br>
      :<br>
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          <div>To add to Stephanie’s note that this specific issue -
            whether registrants of domain names actively used for
            commercial transactions ought to be disallowed from using
            P/P services - had been discussed at some length by the WG:</div>
          <div><br>
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          <div>Please note that this part of the Initial Report draws
            heavily on the detailed WG template for Charter Category C
            that was the basis for the WG’s deliberations on this topic.
            That template contains lengthy descriptions of what had
            previously been termed the majority and minority positions
            on the WG’s answer to this specific issue. As part of the
            WG’s deliberations – which took place primarily between
            April and June 2014 - the more specific formulation of
            “transactional” to describe the sort of commercial (i.e.
            Involving financial transactions) activities that were being
            discussed was included in the language. All the templates
            and suggested formulations discussed by the WG are recorded
            and published on the WG wiki.</div>
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          </div>
          <div>The WG ultimately agreed to retain the two positions in
            the Initial Report and to revisit the question during its
            review of the public comments received. As noted previously,
            the WG's views were presented to the community in London in
            June 2014 and again in Los Angeles in October 2014.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Therefore, the three questions in Section 1.3.3 of the
            Executive Summary <u>only</u> go toward soliciting
            community input on this single issue. They were not intended
            to represent a view of any “side” in the WG with regard to
            this matter. If the WG prefers, we can add a sentence to
            clarify and specify the reason for the questions in Section
            1.3.3. Fundamentally, the idea is that public comments will
            facilitate the WG’s eventual resolution of this issue as
            part of its preparation of the Final Report. </div>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>We hope this reminder of the background is of
              assistance.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Cheers</div>
            <div>Mary</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
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                <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                      class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Mary Wong</font></font></div>
                <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                      class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Senior
                      Policy Director</font></font></div>
                <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                      class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Internet
                      Corporation for Assigned Names &amp; Numbers
                      (ICANN)</font></font></div>
                <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                      class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Telephone:
                      +1 603 574 4892</font></font></div>
                <div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font
                      class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Email:
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a></font></font></div>
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            style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Stephanie Perrin
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            href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, April
          30, 2015 at 09:20<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a
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          James Gannon &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>&gt;,
          Michele Blacknight &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>&gt;<br>
          <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
          [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3<br>
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              James, prior to you joining the group, we had discussed
              this at some length.  IN fact, I really thought that the
              many reasons why sorting out the purpose of a registration
              is problematic had buried this debate, but apparently
              not.  Some of the issues raised, according to my
              recollection were the following:<br>
              <ul>
                <li>names are registered prior to decisions about
                  content </li>
                <li>content changes over time </li>
                <li>most countries regulate e-commerce in some fashion,
                  so that website commercial activity does not have to
                  be regulated by ICANN
                </li>
                <li>ICANN should not be in the business of regulating
                  content in the first place (and sorting out who is
                  extracting a material consideration from a website in
                  order to deny them the ability to use a proxy
                  registration is certainly a form of regulation)
                </li>
                <li>definitions of commercial activity vary widely
                  around the world<br>
                </li>
                <li>bad actors will not declare, registrars cannot
                  police this matter </li>
                <li>criminal prosecution is not dependent on WHOIS
                  information </li>
                <li>if this is really about the ability to detect market
                  information, ICANN should not be in the business of
                  making registrant information available for market
                  purposes, it does it for security and stability.
                </li>
                <li>contactability remains, regardless of which
                  registrant info appears in WHOIS </li>
              </ul>
              <p>I am planning to reformulate these into questions to
                match the questions on the other side, suggestions
                welcome.
                <br>
              </p>
              Stephanie Perrin<br>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-04-30 16:24, James
                Gannon wrote:<br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                      line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I don’t see
                      this as asking providers to enforce anything
                      similar to other questions when registering a
                      domain, it’s a self-reported assessment. All it
                      does is add an additional branch to the decision
                      tree for eligibility, which will already be there
                      to determine eligibility due to the other reasons
                      listed below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                      line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The
                      registrant is asked will you be processing
                      financial transactions.
                      <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                      line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                    style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 150%; color:
                      rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                          style="font-style: normal; font-variant:
                          normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                          line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
                          Roman';">        
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                      style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 150%;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
                      73, 125);">Yes</span><span
                      style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">à</span><span
                      style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 150%;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
                      73, 125);">Will you be using a 3<sup>rd</sup>
                      party&gt;No&gt;Not eligible for P/P. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoListParagraph"
                    style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                      style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 150%; color:
                      rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                          style="font-style: normal; font-variant:
                          normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
                          line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
                          Roman';">        
                        </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
                      style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 150%;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
                      73, 125);">Yes</span><span
                      style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">à</span><span
                      style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 150%;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
                      73, 125);">Will you be using a 3<sup>rd</sup>
                      party&gt;Yes&gt;Eligible for P/P.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:
                      11pt; line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                      line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m not
                      asking registrars to enforce law but to see if a
                      more finely grained eligibility process can be
                      enacted. Or at least is there is public support
                      for more granularity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                      line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                      line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                      sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-James<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><b><span
                            style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                            Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
                          style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: windowtext;"> Michele
                          Neylon - Blacknight [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                            href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">mailto:michele@blacknight.com</a>]
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:17 AM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> James Gannon; Graeme Bunton; PPSAI<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI
                          Comment Period and Section 1.3.3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">James<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">As a registrar or PP
                          service provider how am I meant to assess
                          this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">It doesn’t scale<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">Seriously.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">If, for example, there
                          is an Irish operated website that is not
                          complying with Irish law then it would be up
                          to the ODCE (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.odce.ie/">http://www.odce.ie/</a>) to

                          enforce whatever needs enforcing, as it would
                          be up to the DPA to enforce any issues around
                          data privacy etc., etc.,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">Attempting to force
                          registrars and PP providers to make these kind
                          of evaluations is not going to work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">Issues like PCI-DSS
                          compliance are matters that should be dealt
                          with by the DPA and the banks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">Forcing registrars and
                          PP providers to start getting involved in that
                          kind of assessment isn’t viable<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                          10.5pt; line-height: 150%; font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                  150%; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif;">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height:
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                                  sans-serif;">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height:
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                                  sans-serif;">Blacknight Internet
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                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height:
                                  150%; font-family: Calibri,
                                  sans-serif;">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                        line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:
                          Calibri, sans-serif;">From: </span></b><span
                        style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">James
                        Gannon<br>
                        <b>Date: </b>Thursday 30 April 2015 07:45<br>
                        <b>To: </b>Graeme Bunton, "<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"<br>
                        <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI
                        Comment Period and Section 1.3.3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                        line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                        sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                          line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I would
                          personally like to see if there is public
                          traction for distinguishing between sites
                          directly processing financial truncations and
                          sites who use 3<sup>rd</sup> parties for
                          processing financial transactions as this is a
                          very important distinction. A simple and I
                          hope non-controversial additional question to
                          the ones below:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                          line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If so,
                          should domains which use a third party to
                          process financial transactions (i.e Paypal,
                          Stripe), and thus do not directly process
                          financial information, be subject to the same
                          restrictions? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                          line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">There
                          are strong existing distinctions both in
                          national laws and in regulations such as
                          PCI-DSS between these two forms.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                          line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                          line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                          sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-James
                          Gannon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="line-height:normal"><b><span
                                style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                                Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
                              style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
                              Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                              [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Graeme Bunton<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:17
                              PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> PPSAI<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI
                              Comment Period and Section 1.3.3</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                          lang="EN-GB">Thanks to all WG members for a
                          very productive call earlier today(and to
                          Steve for his chairing acumen).  The co-chairs
                          and staff met this afternoon to tie down two
                          loose ends from the call.<br>
                          <br>
                          Regarding the deadline for public comments on
                          the Initial Report, we recognize there is
                          considerable support for extending the public
                          comment period to 60 days instead of the
                          standard 40 days on which we have all been
                          planning.   We are prepared to agree to this,
                          but with the caveat that this will have
                          repercussions on the pace and intensity of our
                          work once public comments have been received.
                          Specifically, if the public comment deadline
                          is extended until July 3 (60 days after our
                          publication date of May 4), we will need to
                          plan on at least weekly calls throughout July
                          and August, some of which may need to be more
                          than an hour in length, to review these
                          comments and move toward a Final Report. 
                          Otherwise, we jeopardize the prospects for
                          getting the Final Report in front of the GNSO
                          council no later than the Dublin ICANN
                          meeting.  As was noted on the call today, many
                          additional steps need to take place even after
                          this WG issues its Final Report before any new
                          accreditation system can be implemented, so
                          the time pressure imposed by the expiration of
                          the Interim Specification at the end of next
                          year is already real.
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Also, as previously announced over the past
                          few weeks, if any WG members (or group of
                          members) wish to submit a brief separate or
                          additional statement for inclusion in the
                          package posted for public comment next Monday,
                          such statements need to be received by staff
                          no later than Thursday, April 30. <br>
                          <br>
                          Lastly, the other loose end involves proposed
                          revisions to section 1.3.3 of the Initial
                          Report, which were presented on the call
                          earlier today but which we did not have time
                          to discuss fully.  We agree that this section
                          could benefit from some revision, but believe
                          it should take the form of greater concision,
                          not additional presentation of arguments for
                          the divergent positions.  Thus we suggest that
                          section 1.3.3 be revised to read as follows: 
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          ---</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                            style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
                            lang="EN-GB">Although the WG agreed that the
                            mere fact that a domain name is registered
                            by a commercial entity or by anyone
                            conducting commercial activity should not
                            preclude the use of P/P services , there was
                            disagreement over whether domain names that
                            are actively used for commercial
                            transactions (e.g. the sale or exchange of
                            goods or services) should be prohibited from
                            using P/P services. While most WG members
                            did not believe such a prohibition is
                            necessary or practical, some members
                            believed that registrants of such domain
                            names should not be able to use or continue
                            using proxy or privacy services.<br>
                            <br>
                            For those that argued that it is necessary
                            and practical to limit access to P/P
                            services to exclude commercial entities, the
                            following text was proposed to clarify and
                            define their position: “domains used for
                            online financial transactions for commercial
                            purpose should be ineligible for privacy and
                            proxy registrations.”<br>
                            <br>
                            Public comment is therefore specifically
                            invited on the following questions:  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <ul type="disc">
                          <li class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                            level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                              line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                              sans-serif;" lang="EN-GB">Should
                              registrants of domain names associated
                              with commercial activities and which are
                              used for online financial transactions be
                              prohibited from using, or continuing to
                              use, privacy and proxy services? </span><o:p></o:p></li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                            level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                              line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                              sans-serif;" lang="EN-GB">If so, will it
                              be useful to adopt a definition of
                              “commercial” or “transactional” to define
                              those domains for which P/P service
                              registrations should be disallowed? And if
                              so, what should the definition(s) be?”</span><o:p></o:p>
                          </li>
                          <li class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                            level1 lfo3"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                              line-height: 150%; font-family: Calibri,
                              sans-serif;" lang="EN-GB">Will it be
                              necessary to make a distinction in the
                              WHOIS data fields to be displayed as a
                              result?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                        </ul>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span
                          style="font-family:&quot;Times New
                          Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">---<br>
                          Thanks,<br>
                          <br>
                          Graeme Bunton &amp; Steve Metalitz<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                        </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
                      <pre>_________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
                      <pre>Graeme Bunton<o:p></o:p></pre>
                      <pre>Manager, Management Information Systems<o:p></o:p></pre>
                      <pre>Manager, Public Policy<o:p></o:p></pre>
                      <pre>Tucows Inc.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                      <pre>PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634<o:p></o:p></pre>
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