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    Agreed. We should be extra careful to use this opportunity not just

    to look at the questions we asked, but put the entire first report

    to the test of the comments. If we did anything less, we would

    ignore the essence of the comments. <br>

    <br>

    This includes the question of why an accreditation system is

    preferrable to any other method of achieving those goals, btw.<br>

    <br>

    Best,<br>

    <br>

    Volker<br>

    <br>

    <br>

    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.07.2015 um 17:58 schrieb James M.

      Bladel:<br>

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      <div>While I agree with previous commenters, I'd like to point out

        that it isn't just the volume of comments received that will

        require more time to review, but rather the substantive "holes"

        or "gaps" identified during this process that we need to

        address. Whether these had come from thousands of comments or

        just a handful, I believe they will take more time to process. <br>

        <br>

        Thank you,

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        <div>J.</div>

        <div>____________</div>

        <div>James Bladel</div>

        <div>GoDaddy</div>

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        On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:28, Carlton Samuels &lt;<a

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                ==============================<br>

                Carlton A Samuels<br>

                Mobile: 876-818-1799<br>

                <i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance,

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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM,

              Kathy Kleiman <span dir="ltr">

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                  href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>&gt;</span>

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                <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Hi All, I posted

                  this email earlier today, but have not seen it pop up

                  the list. Resending...<br>

                  Best,<br>

                  Kathy<br>

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                    All,<br>

                    I agree with the emails of Volker and James G. that

                    we have to do a thorough review of the comments. I

                    also agree with the expansion of the time frame to

                    do it. 

                    <br>

                    <br>

                    The last time we had such an outpouring of comments

                    at ICANN that I can remember was the Closed Generic

                    proceeding and comments to the Board. Dozens of

                    comments flowed in from parties who do not

                    traditionally participate in ICANN processes. The

                    Board took the time to read, evaluate and respond to

                    the comments.<br>

                    <br>

                    Here too we must take the time to read, evaluate and

                    respond to the comments. As Volker points out, the

                    issues before us are not only the questions we

                    issued, but the consensus we presented. Do others

                    agree with our consensus?  Do they support our

                    direction?  Would they push it more in one direction

                    or another or reject it outright? <br>

                    <br>

                    One thing I have seen in my skimming of the comments

                    is a lot of discussion of Due Process. There appears

                    to be a good amount of commentary on this issue, and

                    one we will need to read and evaluate closely.

                    <br>

                    <br>

                    Over the year of our work we have talked often about

                    the month of August. How it is a time that many in

                    certain countries take long vacations; how emails to

                    business addresses are often unanswered until the

                    person returns to her/his desk. I think a rush on

                    this in the dead of summer is a) unnecessary b) will

                    not result in full staffing of the teams that we are

                    setting up and c) will not give us the time for the

                    evaluation, analysis and incorporation that we need.<br>

                    <br>

                    Analysis, evaluation, incorporation -- this is a

                    very important task for us now. <br>

                    Best,<br>

                    Kathy<br>

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                    <br>

                    <div>On 7/15/2015 5:50 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>

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                    <blockquote type="cite">Hi all,<br>

                      <br>

                      considering the outpouring of comments, we should

                      not limit ourselves to these three topics but

                      rather try to see how the comments affect the

                      entire work so far. It does make sense to check

                      the comments for these issues, but not

                      exclusively.

                      <br>

                      <br>

                      That said, I volunteer for the first team.<br>

                      <br>

                      I support the sugestion to "collapse" yes and no

                      responses.<br>

                      <br>

                      Best,<br>

                      <br>

                      Volker<br>

                      <br>

                      <div>Am 15.07.2015 um 00:50 schrieb Mary Wong:<br>

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                        <div>Dear WG members,</div>

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                        </div>

                        <div>Following from the WG call earlier today,

                          the co-chairs and staff after some

                          consultation would like to propose the

                          following approach for your consideration:</div>

                        <div><br>

                        </div>

                        <div><u>1. Use of Sub Teams for Specific Topics</u>:</div>

                        <ul>

                          <li>Sub-teams comprising a few WG volunteers

                            each can be formed to do the initial review

                            of public comments received on the three

                            topics suggested by Steve on the call, i.e.

                            (1) Section 1.3.2 of the Initial Report (on

                            escalation of relay requests and the

                            handling of disclosure/publication requests

                            from third parties other than IP rights

                            holders); (2) Section 1.3.3 (on the open

                            question regarding online financial

                            transactions); and (3) Annex E (the

                            Illustrative Disclosure Framework).

                          </li>

                          <li>To assist the WG evaluate the usefulness

                            of sub teams, a sub team for Section 1.3.2

                            can be formed first and serve as a “test

                            case” for the exercise.

                          </li>

                          <li>As outlined on the call, a sub team will

                            do a “first pass” through a template, based

                            on the Public Comment Review Tool, that

                            staff will populate with all the input

                            received on that particular issue. The sub

                            team will report back to the full WG in a

                            timely fashion, including suggesting a WG

                            response and/or proposed action in relation

                            to the comments received.

                          </li>

                          <li>Sub teams may elect to do their work via

                            email and online tools (e.g. Google Docs or

                            a wiki page), with or without supplemental

                            conference calls. Any calls will be recorded

                            and transcribed for transparency purposes,

                            and drafts and other documents prepared

                            using online tools will also be made

                            available to the full WG. (Do note, however,

                            that depending on call scheduling and

                            timing, staff support may not be available

                            for all requested calls if several sub teams

                            are used concurrently.)

                          </li>

                        </ul>

                        <div><b>PLEASE VOLUNTEER FOR SUB TEAM 1.3.2 IF

                            YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING WITH THIS

                            INITIAL REVIEW.

                          </b>Staff will endeavor to provide the

                          template tool for 1.3.2 to the sub team as

                          soon as possible, hopefully by Monday.</div>

                        <div><br>

                        </div>

                        <div><u>2. Full WG Review of Other Comments to

                            Continue in Parallel</u>:</div>

                        <ul>

                          <li>Staff will “collapse” (per James’

                            suggestion on the call) all those template

                            responses received that were simply a Yes or

                            No answer to a question, without any further

                            comment added – these will be reflected in

                            the Public Comment Review Tool accordingly,

                            as a single collective entry. The current

                            Tool (covering Preliminary Recommendations 1

                            through 9) will be updated in time for the

                            WG to begin this review on the next call.

                          </li>

                        </ul>

                        <div><br>

                        </div>

                        <div><u>3. Collated Information</u>:</div>

                        <ul>

                          <li>In addition to the updated spreadsheet

                            just circulated by Graeme, we can also send

                            you archived mail files of the contributions

                            received to the public comment forum, should

                            you or your group wish to conduct searches

                            through each comment yourselves.

                          </li>

                        </ul>

                        <div><br>

                        </div>

                        <div>We hope the above will be helpful in

                          facilitating good progress on the work to be

                          done in preparation for the Final Report.</div>

                        <div><br>

                        </div>

                        <div>Thanks and cheers</div>

                        <div>Mary</div>

                        <div><br>

                        </div>

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