<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><span><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:13px">In regard to Section 3.18.2 of the RAA -- the language is written and encompasses the exact meaning of what was submitted by LE, and accepted by the Registrars during the LE/Registrar negotiations. During the time that the RAA was negotiated, I worked for the US Drug Enforcement Administration and was involved in the negotiations.</span><br></div></span><div class="gmail_default">I believe it is inappropriate to attempt to undermine the intent of this section, or attempt to modify it in any way -- the language means exactly what it says and was intended to mean.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Can we rephrase the responses to sound more neutral as to the
result?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">3.
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
Response to Question 3: </span> Does proposed requirement to
label p/p registrations as such have an impact on the benefit or
value of such registration and if what should be the result of
this</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">?
(Comments 18, 25, 31) <u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><br>
4. Response to Question 8: Should providers be
required to forward all disclosure requests to customers, unless
prohibited by law? (Comments 17, 29) (I.e., should this feature
of Annex E be made applicable to all disclosure requests, not just
those relating to intellectual property?)
<br>
<br>
</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">5.
Response to Question 8: Should the option of registration
cancellation in lieu of disclosure be maintained or prohibited?
(Comments 24, 31)
<br>
(Please also note that the cancellation of the registration may
not even be a tool in the toolkit of the privacy provider,
depending on his degree of integration with the registrar.)<br>
<br>
</span>The law enforcement authority as discussed for the RAA was
supposed to only include official state-run law enforcement bodies
and such agencies designated by law with certain powers comparable
to official LEAs. We have seen a small number of cases where the
language was later used beyond what was intended to organizations
that received no more than a latter from a government agency
supporting that organizations work.<br>
Our definition therefore should limit the scope of LEAs to that
originally intended definition, not the unintended definition the
language currently allows.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<div>Am 14.08.2015 um 23:50 schrieb
Metalitz, Steven:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Pursuant
to Mary’s request, I suggest the following additional issues
raised in comments contained in the public comment tool
document summarized, for possible consideration by the WG: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">3.
Response to Question 3: Should the proposed requirement to
label p/p registrations as such be dispensed with because it
reduces the benefit or value of such registration?
(Comments 18, 25, 31) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">4.
Response to Question 8: Should providers be required to
forward all disclosure requests to customers, unless
prohibited by law? (Comments 17, 29) (I.e., should this
feature of Annex E be made applicable to all disclosure
requests, not just those relating to intellectual property?)
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">5.
Response to Question 8: Should the option of registration
cancellation in lieu of disclosure be prohibited? (Comments
24, 31)
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
addition, with regard to issue #2 as summarized below (“law
enforcement authority” definition): since the definition in
our initial report was copied from the 2013 RAA, can any
registrars in our group report on whether or not this
definition has thus far caused difficulties in the RAA
context (e.g., have there been problems in determining
whether a complaint from a “quasi-governmental entity”
should be handled under RAA section 3.18.2, with its 24-hour
time limit, rather than under 3.18.1)? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Steve
Metalitz
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Issue-spotting for
the WG's preliminary recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Dear
WG members,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As
noted on the WG call earlier today, please send to this
your suggestions for issues arising out of specific public
comments received on the WG’s Preliminary Recommendations
#1 through #9 that you think should be discussed by the
broader WG. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From
the call today, two issues with Recommendation #1 were
identified for WG consideration:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Whether
the definitions include lawyers and law firms that provide
proxy registration services for their clients other than
as a primary business offering;<u></u><u></u></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
possible breadth/vagueness of the proposed definition of
“law enforcement authority” as including
quasi-governmental and other entities<u></u><u></u></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Since
the WG Public Comment Review Tool for these nine
recommendations have been in circulation since 20 July,
please treat this email as a “last call” for
issue-spotting concerning these nine recommendations – as
such, <b>please send any issues you spot to this list by
Friday 14 August. Please also indicate in your email
which comment(s)/commenter(s) you are referring to as
raising the issue(s) you identify.
</b>Note that, as confirmed during the WG call today, this
exercise is for purposes of issue-spotting only at the
moment rather than final resolution, which will depend on
further discussions, as appropriate.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Staff
will compile the issues so identified for review by the WG
on our next call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks
and cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Mary<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Mary
Wong<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Senior
Policy Director<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Telephone:
<a href="tel:%2B1%20603%20574%204889" value="+16035744889" target="_blank">+1 603 574 4889</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Email:
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