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<p style="background-color: white;"><font size="3" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Please find the MP3 recording for the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP Working group
call held on </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Tuesday 8 September 2015 at <span style="color:black">14:00 UTC at:</span></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"><font face="Calibri" style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="color: black;"> </span> Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Privacy & Proxy Services Accreditation Issues PDP WG teleconference on Tuesday 8 September 2015</font></p>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Hi all</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:Miss?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:Oops, sorry for that Michele</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:Did she just speak to me and then change my gender??</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Yes =)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:I think she actually did</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:wow</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Philip Corwin:Now you can star in your own reality TV show, Michele ;-)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Philip Corwin:Good day to all</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:Phil - yesh</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:Document is unsync'd</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> steve metalitz:@Staff could you put the text up on screen pls? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:Isn't it showing? It is for me - let me know!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:I see it</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Alex Deacon:works for me</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:Might be a cxn issue for Steve?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Val S.:I see it too</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Frank Michlick:I think it froze for Steve</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:Steve: I see many more people in the chatroom</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> P:I can see the content on the screen!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Luc Seufer:does this mean we can type anything here and pretend Steve agrees to it and he won't be able to counter it?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Gisella Gruber:Marika has joined the call as well</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Val S.:Electronic requests</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> P:Gisella, I'm just listed as "P". I can't figure out how to change that. I tried logging out and in again. Sorry!!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> P:PS: Paul McGrady</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Gisella Gruber:Thank you P! Have noted your attendance</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Paul in the top right corner of the chat window click the menu click change my info then change your name =)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Sorry Paul the attendees window</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:Could I ask Alex for an answer to my question??</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:@Steve: that would work</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Gisella Gruber:David Hughes has joined the audio bridge</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Osvaldo Novoa:Hello all, sorry I am late, an unexpected meeting</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Paul McGrady:Thanks James!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Gisella Gruber:Osvaldo has joined the adobe connect room</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:I'm in general agreement, just think we need to clean up the language.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Alex Deacon:@James I think when we see the updates in context things will be clearer. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:Ok. Just concerned that "all electronic communications" opens the floodgates for junk communication. I do not want legitimate complaints to get lost in the noise.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Alex Deacon:language clarificaiton is always a good thing however....</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Val S.:James -- don't we allready provide that some comm can be filtered by the provider? </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:@Val, yes - that's one of the options in Rec 16, about what must be forwarded.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Val S.:Right. Does that address your concern James? The recommendation applies to that comm not filtered under Rec 16. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Stephanie Perrin:Need to make sure that PP provider has discretion</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:Perhaps. I'll have to go back and take al look at Rec 16</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:@James I'll paste the Rec 16 language into the right hand side Notes pod.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:Cool, thanks.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:that makes sense</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Agreed</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Stephanie Perrin:sorry I have to sign off now, running to other appt.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Val S.:That is answered by question 1, Vicky</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Thats what the MLATs exist for</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Gisella Gruber:Please state your names for transcript purposes</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Rudi Vansnick:@Michele : isn't there a legal term/period definition for that ?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:defer to Mary, of course. :)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:Rudi - for what?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Rudi Vansnick:the time between the breach and the real stop of delivery service </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:It is september. Last september? :)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:@James G, that's what I was referring to; the sampling was done last September.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:@Mary: if you could repost, that would be great.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:Just noting that we are more likely to vigorously defend our customer info from private parties, vs. LEA. Thanks.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:I will resend the document to the mailing list.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Luc Seufer:@James, it depends on the LEA. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Thanks Mary</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Just about David</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:@James: Agree. quick note that LEA may be a special case. What I am thinking of more is private parties... although voluntary LEA publication is an issue too.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Agreed Kathy</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:+1</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:malware etc., => hosting provider</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:OPen mic with keyboard</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:Please mute if not speaking, thanks</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Paul McGrady:hard to hear over the typing</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Luc Seufer:that's an old typewriter</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:now forcing hosting providers to be more responsive is another problem entirely</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:Like a newsroom from an old movie.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Sounded like a mechinical keyboard =)</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Vicky Sheckler:it is inappropriate to suggest in this world that only one service provider should address a specific problem.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Vicky Sheckler:we need a multi-pronged approach</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:Vicky - I think you're agreeing with me?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Michele Neylon:or maybe not</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Mary Wong:@Steve, @Todd, let me know if/when you want me to switch to the revised Framework language.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:lost audio?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Gannon [GNSO-NCSG]:Working for me</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Alex Deacon:audio is good for me</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> James Bladel:ok, just me the.n</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Chris Pelling:eyah problem with content > hosting company . I agree with Michele</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:Please read - lots of great stuff in these subteam 3 materials</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Paul McGrady:Great call Steve! Thanks!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Vicky Sheckler:Michele - i agree hosting providers have a role to play , but so do registrars and p/p services, etc.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Kathy:Tx Steve!</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Luc Seufer:thanks</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12px;"> Philip Corwin:Bye all</span></div>
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