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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.09.2015 um 23:52 schrieb Carlton
Samuels:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">Actually sir, what undermines
the PDP process is an attempt to back door an idea that was
explicitly rejected.</div>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans
ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">Because absent this attempt I
would have kept my peace. And my use of metaphoric language -
which you clearly don't like! - would not have been provoked.</div>
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==============================<br>
Carlton A Samuels<br>
Mobile: 876-818-1799<br>
<i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance,
Assessment & Turnaround</font></i><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Kiran
Malancharuvil <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com"
target="_blank">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
is the attitude that truly undermines the PDP
process.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kiran</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Carlton Samuels [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com"
target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 21, 2015 2:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Terri Stumme<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kiran Malancharuvil; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a></span></p>
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<div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed
draft language to update Section 1.3.3 of the WG
Initial Report</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS"">Happy to see Kiran recognized
the reference, even why I would be
suspicious of anyone else defining my
commercial activity. </span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS"">Yessir, the language was
deliberately chosen. And for effect.</span></p>
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Sans MS""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS"">Unhappily, the response tends
to the regular. It is always the victim that
is encouraged to wait and be of good cheer.
After the hurt.</span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS"">It should therefore not
surprise that I would reject that argument.</span></p>
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style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS""> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Comic
Sans MS"">-Carlton</span></p>
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==============================<br>
Carlton A Samuels<br>
Mobile: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Turnaround</span></i><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at
12:23 PM, Terri Stumme <<a
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href="mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:terri.stumme@legitscript.com">terri.stumme@legitscript.com</a></a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Georgia","serif"">Additionally,
as noted in the attached "Issue Chart
for the GNSO RAA Remaining Issues PDP on
Privacy/Proxy Services", Item 6.2, this
issue was originally brought forth by
law enforcement.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at
1:06 PM, Kiran Malancharuvil <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a></a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Agree
with Vicky. I would also remind the
working group that the “minority”
view calling for more work includes
membership organizations
representing thousands of voices
including INTA, IACC, IPC, BC, US
Chamber of Commerce).
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While
I’m weighing in I would also reject
any association of these groups with
discriminatory viewpoints such as
that people of color are 2/3rds of a
human being (from the notorious and
despicable Dred Scott decision).
Slightly hyperbolic Carlton.
</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kiran</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="color:#1f497d">Kiran
Malancharuvil</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1f497d">Policy
Counselor</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:#1f497d">MarkMonitor</span></p>
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style="color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:415.222.8318"
target="_blank">415.222.8318</a>
(t)</span></p>
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style="color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:415.419.9138"
target="_blank">415.419.9138</a>
(m)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September
21, 2015 10:01 AM</span></p>
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<b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposed draft language to
update Section 1.3.3 of
the WG Initial Report</p>
</div>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Forwarding
on behalf of Vicky
Sheckler.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
Victoria
Sheckler
<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Monday,
September 21,
2015 9:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b>
'Kathy Kleiman';
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
RE:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposed draft
language to
update Section
1.3.3 of the WG
Initial Report</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Doesn’t
that approach
unfairly ignore the
comments that
requested the
minority position?
It seems to me that
the last paragraph
is consistent with
the majority view
but permits time to
assess the concerns
raised by the
minority view.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a></a> [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of
</b>Kathy
Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Monday,
September 21,
2015 8:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposed draft
language to
update Section
1.3.3 of the WG
Initial Report</span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">+1
James G, Michele, Phil
and Holly. This report
is stunningly
unsupported by the
consensus of the WG.
It is a complete
nonstarter. It
further undermines
confidence in this PDP
process.
<br>
<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
9/19/2015 9:56 PM,
Holly Raiche wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I
totally agree with
James G, Michele,
and Phil. The last
two paragraphs seem
to fly in the face
of the rest of the
text. We could not
reach consensus on
the definitions, let
alone the boundaries
of what might be
excluded from use of
the P/P service. I
do not understand
why we are
contemplating any
further work on the
issue. The
overwhelming
majority of comments
did not support it.
the WG does not
support it. In
Phil’s words, surely
the horse is well
and truly dead and
the only appropriate
action now is a
respectful burial.
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Holly</p>
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<p
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<p
class="MsoNormal">On
19 Sep 2015,
at 9:21 am,
Phil Corwin
<<a
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wrote:</p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">+1.
While I was
unable to make
the last call
those final
two paragraphs
seem out of
sync with the
long
description of
why there is
no consensus
on
circumscribing
the use of P/P
services
forcommercial
or
transactional
services.</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Further,
as regards
this
paragraph—</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
Working Group
also
considered the
suggestion
that<b>during
the
implementation
phase</b> of
the
accreditation
system,
priority be
given to the
development of
an
illustrative
framework
mechanism for
how complaints
that a
particular
domain name is
being used to
carry out
online
financial
transactions
for commercial
purposes
should be
submitted,
processed,
evaluated, and
acted upon.
Concerns that
a blanket
prohibition
against the
use of P/P
services
associated
with a domain
name used to
carry out
online
financial
transactions
for commercial
purposes would
have a
chilling
effect could
be adequately
addressed by
developing an
additional
disclosure
framework.
Requests for
further legal
analysis of
when
disclosure is
warranted in
these
situations
could find its
home here<b>.
This could be
an appropriate
use of
implementation
resources. </b>(emphasis
added)</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></b></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">-- </span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">if
there is no
consensus on<b> </b>the
definitions of
“online
financial
transactions
for commercial
purposes” or
on placing any
restrictions
on them, then
how could
developing an
“Illustrative
framework
mechanism”
possibly be
considered an
appropriate
implementation
measure? There
is no
underlying
policy to be
implemented.
Seems more
like an
attempt to
beat a dead
horse back to
life.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday,
September 18,
2015 5:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James
Gannon; Mary
Wong; <a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposed draft
language to
update Section
1.3.3 of the
WG Initial
Report</span></p>
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restriction
for commercial
/ financial
usage of
domains, then
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is this
language
there? I don’t
understand it.</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><<a
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href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a></a>>
on behalf of
James Gannon<br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday
18 September
2015 20:34<br>
<b>To: </b>Mary
Wong, "<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span
style="color:purple"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></span></a>"<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re:
[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposed draft
language to
update Section
1.3.3 of the
WG Initial
Report</span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks
for your work
on this guys,
while
understanding
that we will
be discussing
this on the
call I will
raise now my
disagreement
with the final
two paragraphs
on creating an
alternative
disclosure
framework at
some point in
the future for
commercial
domains, I
don’t feel
these
represent the
consensus or
agreement of
the WG and
would
respectfully
object against
their
inclusion. I
was under the
impression
that we had
agreed that
the public had
shown their
overall
disagreement
with a
framework that
included
categorisation
of domains, my
read of the
final 2 paras
seems to fly
in the face of
that
agreement.</span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From: </span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><<a
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href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a></a>>
on behalf of
Mary Wong<br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday
18 September
2015 20:21<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a>"<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
Proposed draft
language to
update Section
1.3.3 of the
WG Initial
Report</span></p>
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WG members,</span></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Please
find attached
some proposed
language from
the WG
co-chairs in
respect of
Section 1.3.3
of the WG’s
Initial
Report, i.e.
the
availability
and use of P/P
services for
domain names
associated
with online
financial
transactions.
The suggested
language is
based on the
reports from
Sub Team 2 and
the WG’s
deliberations
on this point
following
review of the
various public
comments
received.</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
co-chairs
would like to
include a
discussion of
this proposed
language on
the next WG
call, and as
such we are
circulating it
to you now so
that you will
have a chance
to review it
before then.
If finalized
and approved,
this will be
included in
the WG’s Final
Report on this
topic.</span></p>
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