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Interesting idea that we should explore further. <br>
One question that pops into mind is what this does to the RAA
requirement of registrars not to knowingly accept registrations from
a non-accredited proxy service once the program is in place. While
we would be treating unaccredited services as the owner for all
intents and purposes, they are not, not really anyway. They just do
not get any of the protections an accredited service is entitled to.
It would therefore follow that this RAA requirement is no longer
needed and could go as there then would only be three options of who
the registrant could be:<br>
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1) The real registrant (without proxy enabled)<br>
2) An unaccredited proxy service, treated as 1)<br>
3) The underlying registrant of an accredited service.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.11.2015 um 18:34 schrieb Susan
Kawaguchi:<br>
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<div>Hello All, </div>
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<div>I have given more thought about the discussion concerning
accredited proxy vendors versus all other unaccredited proxy
vendors, including lawyers. It seems to me that we are never
going to be able to capture each variation of the unaccredited
proxy vendor and James brought up a point that I think we should
consider. </div>
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<div>If accredited proxy vendors adhere to all the requirements we
are describing they will have the benefit of not being
considered the registrant of the domain name. </div>
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<div>Any other type of unaccredited proxy service should simply
not exist and they should always be considered the registrant
with all the rights and liabilities that go along with being the
registrant. We simply would not recognize any other existing
relationship. </div>
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<div>We could make this very clear Accredited proxy or registrant
and not delve into all the grey areas. </div>
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<div>The unaccredited proxy provider would be considered the
Registrant in all actions including the URS and UDRP. </div>
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<div>I am hoping we can discuss further on the call tomorrow. </div>
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<div>Best, </div>
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<div>Susan Kawaguchi</div>
<div>Facebook, Inc. </div>
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