<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div><div>Hello everyone,</div><div><div><br></div>Forwarding Vicky’s message (below), which does not seem to have made it to the list.</div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Victoria Sheckler <<a href="mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com">vsheckler@riaa.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Monday, November 30, 2015 at 16:02<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "Steven J. Metalitz (<a href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a>)" <<a href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Final Report with updated recommendations, and next steps<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In reviewing the recommendations on p.7, it seems to me that the third sentence of the section copied below is overbroad and unnecessary
for the purpose here. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.5in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Courier New";color:windowtext"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“Registrars are not to knowingly accept registrations from privacy or proxy service providers who are not accredited through the process developed
by ICANN. For non-accredited entities registering names on behalf of third parties, the WG notes that the obligations for Registered Name Holders as outlined in section 3.7.7 of the 2013 RAA would apply<a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn1" href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:AR-SA">[1]</span></span></span></a>.
In this regard, the WG notes that the consequence of this recommendation is that an accredited privacy or proxy service provider that is in good standing with ICANN will therefore not be liable for the actions of their customers. Similarly, an individual or
entity that is acting as a privacy or proxy service, but that is not accredited by ICANN or not in good standing, will be considered the registrant of record, and thus responsible for the domain name registration in question.”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It is not our place to say whether an accredited p/p provider is or is not liable for the actions of its customers. While one would
think that in most cases, the accredited p/p provider would not be, I can envision scenarios where the p/p provider would be liable. Given this, either the last two sentences of the section above should be deleted (as the second sentence I think captures
the rule for non-accredited entities acting as a p/p service) or the section should be revised to read as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-.5in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Courier New";color:windowtext"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“Registrars are not to knowingly accept registrations from privacy or proxy service providers who are not accredited through the process developed
by ICANN. For non-accredited entities registering names on behalf of third parties, the WG notes that the obligations for Registered Name Holders as outlined in section 3.7.7 of the 2013 RAA would apply<a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn2" href="#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:AR-SA">[2]</span></span></span></a>.
In this regard, the WG notes that an individual or entity that is acting as a privacy or proxy service, but that is not accredited by ICANN or not in good standing, will be considered the registrant of record.”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">MARY – since my posts don’t always make it to the entire list, can I ask that you please forward it on if it looks like it didn’t
go through? Thanks! - Vicky<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="mso-element:footnote-list"><br clear="all"><hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"><div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn1"><p class="MsoFootnoteText"><a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn1" href="#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">[1]</span></span></span></span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Section 3.7.7.3 of the 2013 RAA reads as follows: “</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Any Registered Name Holder that intends to license use of a domain name to a third party is nonetheless the Registered Name Holder of record
and is responsible for providing its own full contact information and for providing and updating accurate technical and administrative contact information adequate to facilitate timely resolution of any problems that arise in connection with the Registered
Name.”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="mso-element:footnote" id="ftn2"><p class="MsoFootnoteText"><a style="mso-footnote-id:ftn2" href="#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">[2]</span></span></span></span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Section 3.7.7.3 of the 2013 RAA reads as follows: “</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Any Registered Name Holder that intends to license use of a domain name to a third party is nonetheless the Registered Name Holder of record
and is responsible for providing its own full contact information and for providing and updating accurate technical and administrative contact information adequate to facilitate timely resolution of any problems that arise in connection with the Registered
Name.”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></span></body></html>