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Instead of report, could we say "substantiated report"? Any old
claim does not constitute positive knowledge.<br>
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Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.12.2015 um 22:01 schrieb
Metalitz, Steven:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry
James. Here is proposed footnote txt, as revised:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">“Knowingly”
refers to actual knowledge in this context. As
implementation guidance, this knowledge would normally be
obtained through a report to the registrar from ICANN or a
third party. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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James M. Bladel [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2015 3:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> McGrady, Paul D.<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Metalitz, Steven; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions
section<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul -<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Acknowledged. As long as folks are
satisfied that they can protect themselves from being
declared an illicit P/P service by their Registrar (or
changing Registrars if they are), then I'm good.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think Im Ok with Steve's latest
language, but I haven't seen his revised footnote. i'm
working via mobile device now, so it's possible that I'm
just not able to view it.<br>
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Thank you, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">J.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">____________<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James Bladel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">GoDaddy<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 1, 2015, at 14:43, McGrady, Paul D. <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com">PMcGrady@winston.com</a></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks
James. Since the Complainant is a matter of public
record in UDRP proceedings, I guess I don’t see why
there would be a corresponding need to shield the
identity following a transfer order. If it is just a
matter of it being easier to have it transferred to a
firm’s account with the firm as registrant in the WHOIS
rather than to a client account with the client as
registrant in the WHOIS, I guess that is easily handled
by law firms being careful to get accounts set up for
their clients in advance.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">From
my point of view, it looks like we have a “go” then on
the latest iteration of Vicky/Steve’s proposed
language. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
James M. Bladel [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2015 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> McGrady, Paul D.<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Metalitz, Steven; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] definitions
section</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Paul -<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It would not prohibit the
implementation of a UDRP. However, the notice of a UDRP
decision, accompanied by a request to transfer the
domain to a law firm representing the prevailing party,
could be interpreted by a Registrar that they should now
"know" that this particular registrant was acting on
behalf of other entities.<br>
<br>
Thank you, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">J.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">____________<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James Bladel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">GoDaddy<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 1, 2015, at 14:30, McGrady, Paul D. <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com">PMcGrady@winston.com</a></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">James,
I guess I don’t understand what part of this would
prohibit a registrar from implementing a UDRP
decision. Can you explain?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2015 2:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Metalitz, Steven<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg]
definitions section</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for launching this thread,
Steve. I know time is short so I'll just weigh in
with two quick points:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(1) I believe we planned to
include a footnote with Implementation Guidance that
"knowingly" in this context meant "active knowledge"
on the part of the Registrar, via a report received
from ICANN or elsewhere, and not in reference to any
mandatory "black list" of prohibited registrants
that would be checked prior to issuing any
registrations, and<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(2) I am still concerned that
this allows Registrars (or ICANN Staff) to interpret
the requirement to mean that becoming aware of law
firms or web hosts acting on behalf of customers
unknown to the Registrar (e.g. implementing a UDRP
decision) would require the Registrar to block
future registrations from that entity. Granted, it
would not be in a Registrar's best interests to act
against its own customers in this manner, but some
might choose (or feel pressured by Compliance) to do
so.<br>
<br>
Thank you, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">J.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">____________<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">James Bladel<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">GoDaddy<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Dec 1, 2015, at 10:36, Metalitz, Steven <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:met@msk.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:met@msk.com">met@msk.com</a></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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WG,
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Per
request on this morning’s call, attached is a
redline of the passage from the “Definitions”
section of the recommendations (page 7 of the
clean version circulated by Mary). This is the
proposal I asked James to consider accepting. I
think this proposal minimizes the risk of
conflict between our recommendations and the
RAA. Per Graeme’s request on the call, any
feedback welcomed today. Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Steve
Metalitz</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 30, 2015 8:30
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] FW:
Final Report with updated recommendations,
and next steps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Forwarding
Vicky’s message (below), which does not
seem to have made it to the list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Sheckler <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vsheckler@riaa.com">vsheckler@riaa.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, November 30, 2015 at
16:02<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Mary Wong <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Cc: </b>"Steven J. Metalitz (<a
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Final
Report with updated recommendations, and next
steps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-GB">In reviewing the
recommendations on p.7, it seems to me
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copied below is overbroad and unnecessary
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are not to knowingly accept registrations
from privacy or proxy service providers
who are not accredited through the process
developed by ICANN. For non-accredited
entities registering names on behalf of
third parties, the WG notes that the
obligations for Registered Name Holders as
outlined in section 3.7.7 of the 2013 RAA
would apply<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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In this regard, the WG notes that the
consequence of this recommendation is that
an accredited privacy or proxy service
provider that is in good standing with
ICANN will therefore not be liable for the
actions of their customers. Similarly, an
individual or entity that is acting as a
privacy or proxy service, but that is not
accredited by ICANN or not in good
standing, will be considered the
registrant of record, and thus responsible
for the domain name registration in
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lang="EN-GB">It is not our place to say
whether an accredited p/p provider is or
is not liable for the actions of its
customers. While one would think that in
most cases, the accredited p/p provider
would not be, I can envision scenarios
where the p/p provider would be liable.
Given this, either the last two sentences
of the section above should be deleted (as
the second sentence I think captures the
rule for non-accredited entities acting as
a p/p service) or the section should be
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style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“Registrars
are not to knowingly accept registrations
from privacy or proxy service providers
who are not accredited through the process
developed by ICANN. For non-accredited
entities registering names on behalf of
third parties, the WG notes that the
obligations for Registered Name Holders as
outlined in section 3.7.7 of the 2013 RAA
would apply<a moz-do-not-send="true"
style="mso-footnote-id:ftn2"
href="#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""><span
class="MsoFootnoteReference">[2]</span></a>.
In this regard, the WG notes that an
individual or entity that is acting as a
privacy or proxy service, but that is not
accredited by ICANN or not in good
standing, will be considered the
registrant of record.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-GB">MARY – since my posts don’t
always make it to the entire list, can I
ask that you please forward it on if it
looks like it didn’t go through? Thanks!
- Vicky</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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