<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 29 Mar 2016, at 2:53 AM, Kiran Malancharuvil via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I am disappointed by the tone that this discussion has taken already. Perhaps we can eliminate the prejudgment of positions that should be welcomed and freely examined.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Indeed. Every document presented should be considered regardless of what position it might support. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> Ayden, there are many intelligent positions which support the balance of legitimate privacy interests with consumer protection and anti-fraud/phising/malware interests.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>And if you have documents that you feel summarise that case well I encourage you to submit them to the group. Documents that are both concise enough and broadly approachable enough that we can realistically hope for a large percentage of participants to read them are especially welcome. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> Arguably, even the laws you cite are not as broadly applicable as you are attempting to present them here, taking into account the need to balance interests. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Arguments of that level of detail probably are not that helpful, however, and if necessary should probably be discussed with the wider group. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Frankly this dialogue is a fantastic demonstration of why complex legal issues should not be debated within ICANN working groups. </span></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>That seems an extreme conclusion to draw from discussion so far, and not that helpful. </div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> We should seek independent review of these issues and (most importantly) the application of these laws to Whois/Registration Directory Services. This important issue shouldn’t be a he said/she said. </span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>That may well be a useful course of action, but it is certainly an issue for the broader group not this sub-team, which is concerned only with document collation and curation issues. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Regards</div><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>David</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Kiran<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Kiran Malancharuvil<o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Policy Counselor<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">MarkMonitor<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">415.222.8318 (t)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">415.419.9138 (m)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><a href="http://www.markmonitor.com/" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: blue;" class="">www.markmonitor.com</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy-bounces@icann.org" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-privacy-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy-bounces@icann.org" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ayden Fabien Férdeline via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March 28, 2016 10:53 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Greg Shatan<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy] Privacy sub-group<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 800px;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td valign="top" style="padding: 0in;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td valign="top" style="padding: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Fully understand that, Greg, but the fact that ICANN is headquartered in a territory with objectively poor privacy laws does not mean we cannot look to respect the wishes of the 108 countries who do offer a general right to information privacy. Sorry if my views on this issue have come out, but yes, I support the principles of privacy-by-default, which in economically-advanced economies outside of the United States is not an abstract concept. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best wishes,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ayden<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.jpg@01D188E6.DBF558C0"><image001.jpg></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Ayden,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">EU rulings do not necessarily impact the law in the rest of the world, much less California. I would not categorize an attempt to embrace EU principles as a "race to the top" nor would I categorize those principles as "international best practices." Certainly, we as a group should not adopt such attitudes. But, hey, it's nice to know where you stand. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Greg Shatan<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="800" style="width: 600pt;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td width="100" valign="top" style="width: 75pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span id="cid:image002.jpg@01D188E6.DBF558C0"><image002.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td><td width="8" style="width: 6pt; padding: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td><td style="padding: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 46, 98);" class="">Gregory S. Shatan | Partner<br class=""></span></b><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">McCARTER & ENGLISH, LLP<br class=""><br class="">245 Park Avenue, 27th Floor | New York, New York 10167<br class="">T: <a href="tel:212-609-6873" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class="">212-609-6873</span></a><br class="">F: <a href="tel:212-416-7613" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class="">212-416-7613</span></a><br class=""><a href="mailto:gshatan%20@mccarter.com" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 85, 153);" class="">gshatan @mccarter.com</span></a> | <a href="http://www.mccarter.com/" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 85, 153);" class="">www.mccarter.com</span></a> <br class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">BOSTON | HARTFORD | STAMFORD | NEW YORK | NEWARK <br class="">EAST BRUNSWICK | PHILADELPHIA | WILMINGTON | WASHINGTON, DC</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Ayden Fabien Férdeline <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 800px;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td valign="top" style="padding: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Hello all,</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">I would like to introduce some material relating to the 'right to be forgotten' in Europe. Here's<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://links2.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/Y6pG8Inj7cxRfeEQg?rn=IyZy9mLu5WYjlGQ5NWY2lmcw1CckBXLzRmct82cudmI&re=IyZy9mLu5WYjlGQ5NWY2lmcw1CckBXLzRmct82cudmI" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">a court judgement</span></a> <<a href="http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=152065&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=11654" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=152065&pageIndex=0&doclang=EN&mode=req&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=11654</span></a>>.</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">The protection of personal data in Europe is seen as a fundamental right on equal standing with all other human rights. The Court of Justice of the European Union has consistently held that any and all data processing must be subject to stringent proportionality assessments.</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">It has been unsuccessfully argued that allowing users to delete their data is an affront to other fundamental rights such as free speech. The Court of Justice of the EU has consistently ruled that if and when the privacy interests of the data subject outweigh the public interest, the individual should be able to enforce his or her 'right to be forgotten'.</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><br class="">This decision is something we should carefully consider when looking at how long we retain information for. Certainly once a domain name has expired, it would be difficult to justify under these rulings the continued storage of the sensitive personal information of registrants.</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">I appreciate that EU rulings do not necessarily impact Californian law, but hey, why not have a race to the top and adopt international best practices in privacy law… :-)</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Best wishes,</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Ayden Férdeline</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:37 AM, David Cake via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-privacy@icann.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Welcome all of you to the Privacy sub-team. Thanks to all of you for volunteering. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 4.5pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Our task is first to collect information on privacy issues relevant to registration data. Then we will go on to decide how best to present that information for use of the working group - we may consolidate, summarise, prioritise etc in order to make the important information easily available. Hopefully the privacy experts on this group will help us locate the most important material, and make it easily digestible to the broader working group. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">This is a link to the RDS PDP WG document that describes the approach the WG agreed upon <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_58730879_RDS-2DPDP-2DProposed-2DSummary-2DApproach.pdf&d=CwMBAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=gvEx8xF7ynrYQ7wShqEr-w&m=u1EVRiHe_hJc7jxNs5HvrA_j6PFk6zDIgTHzeV5HW-I&s=2ky2gNfugoilw7hdnuB-Li1SPS7b_5IFQFq5Dm1QeEk&e=" target="_blank" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/58730879/RDS-PDP-Proposed-Summary-Approach.pdf</a> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">At this early stage, we are in collection mode - please send documents that you think will be valuable to the group. If you add a bit more information for context as to why you think it would be useful, that will probably be very helpful for later work. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Looking forward to working with you all. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" class="">David<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; 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