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That is a great line, Ayden, I totally agree and I snort about
electronic fees so often that I am now an old curmudgeon clinging
stubbornly to paper. I won't tell you how long my hard copy of
Graham's book has sat on my study couch, where I can get a
pennysworth of enjoyment every day I look at it, at least. (I am not
getting through it anytime soon, at 577 pages)<br>
Fav chapter for our purposes is, in my view, Chapter 3, Standards by
which to assess a Country's Data Privacy Laws. Now that is not much
help in predicting how a country will find with respect to the
question of WHOIS, but it shows those unfamiliar with DP law what
scholars look for in assessing a framework. I would note that much
later on, he analyses the Bennett and Raab prediction re race to the
top, race to the bottom, and finds in fact high standards in Asian
law. <br>
One thing you could do, as the index is v unhelpful in looking for
keywords like ICAnn and WHOIS and public registry, is do a scan when
you get your hands on the electronic version. i would love to know
if he has found any cases on WHOIS. <br>
thanks! Stephanie<br>
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<div>The LSE is kind enough to grant alumni access to
e-books, so I have access to the full text you mentioned
(Asian Data Privacy Laws: Trade & Human Rights
Perspectives). I can summarise a few chapters, though I
wouldn't be able to do so until mid next week. If you
have the contents page handy, might you be able to
suggest which chapter(s) I should summarise? That being
said, I think the point you alluded to, though — that
we, as a Working Group, should all have the same access
to review in full the texts we are summarising — is a
very valid one. I think the Guardian put it best when
they said, “academic publishers make Murdoch look like a
socialist.” £74.75 for 24 hours access to that text,
which was probably funded through government research
grants and academic stipends? It hardly seems
justifiable…</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<div>Ayden </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 6:09 PM,
Stephanie Perrin via Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy <span
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Yes it certainly clears up the redundancy that I
thought I saw....I figured one reference is enough
as the links are all there, but whatever you
like.� Not sure the article adds a whole pile to
our understanding but I am immersed in this
stuff.� And yes, there is an ebook but the price
point is (IMHO) a bit nutty and I did not think
you could just buy one chapter.� I am old
fashioned, I like the book in my hand....<br>
I can of course siphon off one chapter through my
uni library but this is not cricket, so thought I
would ask Graham how he felt about sharing it. He
may also, being prolific, have spun that work off
in an article we could find somewhere (not me, not
now)<br>
Thanks again Lisa!<br>
cheers steph<br>
<div>On 2016-04-06 12:58, Lisa Phifer wrote:<br>
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type="cite"> Thanks Stephanie. I had noticed
that Kathy suggested the same Greenleaf book
that you had, but thought it important to add
the article about the tables also cited by
Kathy. That's why the checklist contains both:<br>
<br>
* Global Tables (2015, abstract and PDF download
here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2603502"
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http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2603502</a>)
and<br>
<br>
* Article about the Global Tables (2015,
abstract and PDF download here: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
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<br>
Please let me know if that doesn't clear up the
apparent redundancy. No doubt it would be useful
for the same person to review/summarize both
together for the privacy team, since the article
discusses recent updates to the table and the
trends behind them.<br>
<br>
FYI, Greenleaf's 2014 book is available
commercially as an e-book - see <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://books.google.com/books?id=0eAuBQAAQBAJ"
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=0eAuBQAAQBAJ">https://books.google.com/books?id=0eAuBQAAQBAJ</a></a>
. Since we don't have public access to it,
perhaps you could summarize the chapter you
found useful? Doing that now would at least help
the WG remember this resource exists when the
time comes for detailed analysis of privacy
laws.<br>
<br>
Best, Lisa<br>
<br>
<br>
At 09:23 AM 4/6/2016, Stephanie Perrin via
Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="">Thanks Lisa,
there is a redundancy, in that the global
table I sent you (SSRN article by Greenleaf)
is the same as the one Kathy resent which
appears below it.� <br>
In his 2014 book on asian privacy laws, which
I did not send as it is hardcover only, there
is an excellent chapter on how to
evaluate/compare privacy laws, which has
always been a puzzle for WHOIS discussions.�
I could summarize that but probably not
distribute a scanned copy, however graham is a
great advocate for access so if interested I
could pester him and see if he has an
electronic version.<br>
cheers stephanie<br>
<br>
On 2016-04-06 10:39, Lisa Phifer via
Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="">Hello all, <br>
<br>
Today's updated privacy team checklist
(attached) was just posted to the wiki at: <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/p4xlAw">
https://community.icann.org/x/p4xlAw</a> <br>
<br>
Just follow the link above if you're looking
for the latest daily update of any team's
checklist. <br>
<br>
In today's checklist update, to make it
clearer which docs are not yet assigned, I
have removed the ? names from the "Reviewed
by" column. As you can see, there are still
plenty of docs identified by this team over
the past week or so that could still use
volunteers to review them. For those not
certain how much work is involved: summaries
should be concise - for example, "executive
summaries" that point the WG to the portions
of the document most relevant to RDS privacy
and why. <br>
<br>
Best, Lisa <br>
<br>
<br>
At 11:49 AM 4/5/2016, David Cake via
Gnso-rds-pdp-privacy wrote: <br>
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<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="">Please find
attached a summary of the proposed plan to
finish the sub-teams input summarising
work as presented on todays call. We�?Td
like to get this document summarising work
done (of course, we know other relevant
documents may be published from here on,
but we can handle those as the come) so we
can get back to full WG mode and start
proceeding with the rest of the work plan.
<br>
<br>
So what we are asking of you now is: <br>
<br>
Please look at the input checklist
provided, choose at least one input
(ideally one that has not been looked at
yet) that you are wiling to summarise, and
email the whole group to let them know
that you are working on it. Aim to have
these summaries done by Monday. <br>
Please try to do this by the end of
Wednesday. <br>
<br>
This doesn�?Tt mean that we are
necessarily done with identification of
new inputs - if you have someone else
valuable to add, feel free to continue to
do so. But the focus should now be on
summarising what we have. <br>
<br>
<br>
David <br>
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