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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With regard to the RAA as well as registry agreements with gTLD registries, one of the possible outcomes of this WG is the recommendation of consensus policies.
As I think many of you know, gTLD registries and registrars are required in their agreements to implement consensus policies approved by the Board so the consensus policies would become a requirement in the applicable agreements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kawaguchi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2016 4:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephanie Perrin; gnso-rds-pdp-purpose@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-purpose] Additional Information/question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I disagree that we accepted the RAA as fait accompli. I think the whole EWG team spent many hours discussing any view point in reference to registration data
purpose, collection and display. We also reviewed any document that was brought to our attention from DPA’s or Article 29 WP. We may not have agreed on the interpretation and meaning of those documents but we discussed data collection and privacy more than
any other topic since it was so crucial to our work. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, April 25, 2016 at 9:11 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-purpose@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-purpose@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-purpose] Additional Information/question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif";color:black">I would actually disagree. We discussed the use cases for data, accepting those current uses as by and large legitimate. From a data protection perspective, it has been clear
from the very beginning that many of the new purposes that registrant data were being put to, would not be permissible by law under the original purpose of WHOIS. We never looked at the collection instrument, (RAA) it was accepted as fait accompli. We did
not go over the extensive collection of documents that we had received from the DPAs. So a thorough, tabula rasa discussion of the purpose of collection of registrant data is in order, in my view. And SAC 055 agrees with that view.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif";color:black">Stephanie Perrin</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">The EWG spent an inordinate amount of time resolving the question as to whether there was a purposeful need for registration data and if so, what should be collected, the standards for
collection, how it should be curated and the safeguards, why and how it should be published and the mechanisms for publication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">I say again, it would be a sign of malignancy to embrace any attempt to bounce the rubble here. If there is new and original insight of value to the end game, let it be heard. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I think my concerns run to (iii) and (v) below as the limitations of certain documents (especially ones people refer to often) have definitely been a part of the discussion of this subgroup. I would note that certain document in the summaries already contain
some red highlighted notes, and I would like to request that similar notes be added *within our summary* of the Whois Review Team Final Report and within our subgroup report to the full WG. Here are the bullet points you requested (tx for asking!):<br>
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- The Whois Review Team was<i> expressly barred from looking at the purpose of the Whois system</i>. It was allowed to look only at ICANN's "existing policy relating to WHOIS" per the Affirmation of Commitments signed between US Department of Commerce and ICANN
in 2009. <br>
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- Even within that scope, the Whois Review Team Final Report expressly recommended protection of privacy for commercial companies, noncommercial organizations and individuals (finding that each shared with us legal and legitimate reasons for privacy including
as-yet-unannounced mergers, new movie names, unpopular religious, ethnic and policy views, etc).
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- The Whois Review Team Final Report advised ICANN to work towards a standard of "contactability"
<i>- reaching the registrant by some means rather than all means </i>- which we wrote as: "ICANN should take appropriate measures to reduce the number of WHOIS registrations that fall into the accuracy groups Substantial Failure and Full Failure (as defined
by the NORC Data Accuracy Study, 2009/10..." p. 87.<br>
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We were tasked with conveying to the full WG our understanding of "purpose" as guided by these documents - and these notes add key insights and understandings to it (as we shared many times in presenting this Final Report to ICANN in 2012).
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On 4/24/2016 8:35 PM, Marika Konings wrote:<br>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Kathy, all, as a reminder, each sub-team is expected to answer the<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">following questions in relation to the work it has undertaken:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">(i) Did this input inventory produce any insights to inform the WG¹s work<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">plan? <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">(ii) Which inputs are likely to be the most important [relevant] during WG<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">deliberations and why?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">(iii) Which inputs, if any, generated the most discussion within the small<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">team? <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">(iv) Which inputs may be obsolete or super-ceded by subsequent work?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">(v) What input gaps, if any, may need to be addressed later?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">(vi) Other key takeaways from this input inventory the team wishes to<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">share with the WG <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Your concern appears to fall under item v? If you would like to summarise<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">your concerns in a few bullets, the sub-team can maybe use these to start<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">building out the responses to the questions?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">On 22/04/16 15:13, <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofKathyKleiman" target="_blank">"gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.org on behalf of<o:p></o:p></a></span></pre>
<pre><span class="MsoHyperlink"><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofKathyKleiman" target="_blank">Kathy Kleiman"</a></span><span style="color:black"> <a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofkathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank"><gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.org on behalf of<o:p></o:p></a></span></pre>
<pre><span class="MsoHyperlink"><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-purpose-bounces@icann.orgonbehalfofkathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com></a></span><span style="color:black"> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Hi Susan and Lisa,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">I have a question (which certainly does not have to be answered on a<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Friday afternoon), but some deep concerns have been raised on this list<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">by people who helped created various documents and reports that we are<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">now evaluating. For example, I raised the fact that it was completely<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">out of scope for the Whois Review Team to evaluate the data collected in<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Whois and the primary purpose for which it was created. By the<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Affirmation of Commitments, we had to deal with the Whois system as it<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">existed (and had been passed to ICANN from the National Science<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Foundation).<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">We could not and did not address or deal with primary purpose. I think<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">this limitation and fact is critical to the understanding and evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">of the Whois Review Team report, especially as it applies to our<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">question of "purpose."<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">How can this point be added to Whois Review Team Final Report summary -<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">perhaps in Additional Information? -- and to our discussion?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Tx,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Kathy<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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