[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For WG Review - Redlined Problem Statement

Gomes, Chuck cgomes at verisign.com
Tue Aug 23 13:17:44 UTC 2016 

Isn’t it true that we want to consider all camps regardless of how many there are?  We may decide that the needs of some camps are not legitimate (e.g., abusers).  If my assumption is correct, then it is not essential for us to identify all camps at this time. Moreover, if we try to list an all-inclusive list, we risk leaving some out.

Chuck

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I would suggest that there is a different camp:
Service providers (potentially part of the domain name industry) that desire a system of data collection and storage that is 100% in line with legal requirements for the collection and storage of and access to such data to avoid being accessories to illegal violations of their customers' rights!



Best,

Volker

Am 23.08.2016 um 00:40 schrieb Mark Svancarek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
Camp #1:
Consumers, the domain name industry, governments, and intellectual property owners, and individual registrants all have a vested interest in an RDS system which contains accurate and complete registration data…. These stakeholders have similar yet distinct requirements regarding the particular data which should be collected and the conditions under which it can be viewed.

Camp #2:
Additionally, there are some entities which desire anonymity for free speech and personal safety reasons, and their requirements regarding data collection and data access may be at odds with the aforementioned stakeholders.

/msv

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Greg, As I understand it the "two camps" are just the providers of data and the users of data.

The wording might be "...or other groups, may have interests as providers of data or as users of data depending on circumstances."
Sam L.
On 8/18/2016 2:58 PM, Greg Aaron wrote:
Attached is a revised draft, as requested.  Red-line and comments are turned on.

The first paragraph now quotes from the WG’s charter.  The last draft paraphrased, which left out relevant sections of the WG’s mission.  (Quoting from source docs can help us avoid omissions, scope creep, etc.)

A question: the last draft said “Members of the global population of end-users, whether they are individuals, organizations, companies, or other groups, may fall into either camp depending on circumstances.”
What are the two camps being referred to, and what are we trying to say with this sentence?  It does not seem to be about anonymous registrants in the preceding sentence, otherwise we’d say “registrants” rather than “end-users.”  Are we trying to say that there is a wide range of end-users and they may have various views on the issues depending on their use cases and circumstances?

All best,
--Greg





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