[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For WG Review - Redlined Problem Statement

Tue Aug 23 17:25:18 UTC 2016

Sorry, no. This data is a red herring. We are discussion registrants, not "consumers." A relevant data set is a key factor in the probative value of data.

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On Aug 23, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:

Research conducted by Nielsen for ICANN earlier this year found that 66% of consumers had never tried to identify the creator of a website before. Of those who had, even once, tried to identify the creator of a website, only 5% claimed to have performed a WHOIS search even once. Source: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/reviews/cct/phase2-data-tables-region-08jun16-en.pdf

I appreciate that you were discussing the awareness of WHOIS among domain name registrants, and not ordinary Internet users, however I would like to introduce this data because it would indicate that general awareness of the WHOIS service is low (and I am not aware of any more relevant studies which have been conducted on the matter of WHOIS).

Best wishes,

Ayden

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Agree with SusanK.  I know many registrants (individuals, corporations, etc) who are quite versed in Whois and the purpose of it.

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Sara Bockey <sbockey at godaddy.com<mailto:sbockey at godaddy.com>> wrote:
Fair and good points Steve and Volker. Just hoping the problem statement will make our jobs easier, not harder, but perhaps that’s not possible.

Sara

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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For WG Review - Redlined Problem Statement

Turning this over to the GAC is indeed not conductive to efficient and goal-oriented problem solving, yet ICANN needs to also be careful not to intrude in what the GAC may view as the job of governments, i.e. regulating the powers of law enforcement and cross border jurisdiction.

Am 23.08.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Metalitz, Steven:

Sara’s redline is more constrained but does it omit our main job, which is to resolve/manage/accommodate/mitigate the divergent and sometimes contradictory interests in RDS which the earlier draft rather succinctly identified?   (I realize all those verbs are different, and not sure which is the best.)

If the “core problem” is really to “account for rules, regulations and laws” then should the job be turned over to the GAC which after all represents the sources and authoritative interpreters of those “rules, regulations and laws”?   I doubt that would be a satisfactory way to proceed.

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 05:42:17PM +0000, Sara Bockey wrote:
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> The problem statement should be explicit and to the point, without extraneous wording or viewpoints. Accordingly, my proposed revisions are attached.
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I think this is vastly better because it is more constrained.

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