[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] One Way Gated Access to Data Might Work

Mon Dec 12 15:40:19 UTC 2016

Hi Scott,

thank you for your clarification. That reaction was based on my 
misconception of the proposal then. I am looking forward to seeing how 
this evolves further.

Best,

Volker

Am 12.12.2016 um 15:45 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott:
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org 
> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker Greimann
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 9:13 AM
> *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] One Way Gated Access to 
> Data Might Work
>
> Interesting, but I am not sure this is ultimately what we should be 
> looking for for one simple reason. This proposed implementation 
> apparently does not provide for any differentiation between access 
> levels except for the three authentification levels.
>
> [SAH] No, not true. While this particular experiment includes three 
> levels of access, the approach is designed to be tailored to make 
> authorization and access control decisions based on a number of 
> different factors. What you currently see in my experiment is just one 
> possibility. It already includes support for specification of query 
> purpose (for example), and that information can be used to provide 
> additional levels of access control based on the policies implemented 
> by the server operator.
>
> So once one obtains and advanced authentification, one can access all 
> data in the database, which I would consider insufficient 
> differentiation. Access should be further scecialized on a "need to 
> know" and "right to know" basis. For example, should a certified and 
> authentificated law enforcement agency have access to all registrant 
> data or only to registrant data that applies to their jurisdiction 
> (plus maybe an identifier that details which jurisdiction applies to a 
> data set that agency cannot access).
>
> [SAH] The actual protocol proposal* I’ve developed includes support 
> for specification of a query purpose that can be used to make more 
> specific access control decisions. If other factors are needed, they, 
> too, can be included.
>
> Similarly, would a IP rights holder have access to all data or only to 
> just enough data needed to achieve their goal, which would likely be 
> to contact the registrant?
>
> In other words, the access level scheme should differentiate between 
> levels of access much more and restrict that access to those with a 
> right to access or a legitimate need to access without overstepping 
> legal or jurisdictional boundaries.
>
> This proposed implementation it too simplistic.
>
> [SAH] In no way did I infer that the existing implementation is 
> “final” or a complete solution. It is just an early proposal and an 
> early experiment to demonstrate possibilities. I fully expect to make 
> revisions based on the outputs of this WG.
>
> Scott
>
> * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hollenbeck-regext-rdap-openid/
>

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