[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case

Sun Jul 24 23:58:59 UTC 2016

To talk about this a bit more from the work we did on the EWG, since our task was to rethink whois from the ground up, we did delve into use cases that either are impossible or very difficult to accomplish with the current system.  Many of the “potential use cases” were brought by having experts representing different types of stakeholders, users, registrants, ecosystem participants etc. as part of the group itself, and others were brought in from direct feedback from various stakeholder groups.

So, for example, use cases around how corporations track and manage their hundreds to thousands of domains across multiple TLDs and registrars, which represent a large chunk of the 300+ million domain names currently registered, is very difficult today, were presented; and various ways a new RDS could make that much more efficient for everyone in the ecosystem were included.  Another great example was how a new RDS could be use to protect one’s identity (name/address/e-mail) from being used to falsely register a domain name, which is frankly impossible today and leads to direct personal harm, can be enacted using various credentialing systems.  And of course, the many use cases that tied to tiered access in order to enable the ability of those who desire to have their personal data protected properly and proportionately, are mostly “new thinking” versus today’s situation.  It is very important that we continue that thinking as part of this WG, since this is our opportunity to “fix” many of the ills that the antiquated registration data system has.

As with many other topics I see debated on this list that I consider a near complete rehash of things that are well covered in the main documents we kicked this group off with, especially the EWG reports, I cannot stress enough how much of this work is already done and many of the issues pretty fully explored in those documents.  PLEASE review and and read those primary documents if you haven’t done so already, particularly if you want to weigh in on a topic on this list, and use them as a basis for your agreement, disagreement, starting point, etc. as it will make this process all the better and more expeditious.

Thanks all - good discussions occurring even if some of them are ahead of schedule - would be great to stay focused on bringing things together for this stage rather than debating stuff we know is coming, so we can get there faster, but at least those threads have been largely germane.

Cheers,

Rod Rasmussen
VP, Cybersecurity

-  <http://www.infoblox.com/>-
 <http://www.infoblox.com/>
> On Jul 24, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> My answer was not intended to limit how use cases are used by the WG throughout this PDP. It was just to clarify the focus of the current action item seeking example use cases for discussion over the next couple of WG calls.
> 
> While we are still prepping for deliberations, my understanding was that we are starting with use cases to develop a shared understanding of today's real-world scenarios.
> 
> It's very useful to flag problems that may need to be solved, possible improvements, etc, within use cases. However, deliberating on any new possible requirements suggested within an example use case should occur once we enter deliberation.
> 
> Best, Lisa
> 
> 
> At 01:09 PM 7/24/2016, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>> Why?  If that's the rule, then there's no point: we're doomed forever to the stupidity of Whois.
>> 
>> A
>> 
>> --
>> Andrew Sullivan
>> Please excuse my clumbsy thums.
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 14:55, Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good question - use cases should describe today's real-world scenarios.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 11:57 AM 7/24/2016, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just as a question, when we do use cases are we supposed to put in hypotheticals or talk about them as they are now?Ã‚  Eg tiered access does not exist at the moment, do we imagine our use cases as we would like to see them?Ã‚  Sorry not to have been paying close enough attention to this.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-07-24 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>>>> Karnika
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Thanks for the example.
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> In order to make it easier to process use cases IÃ¢€™d rd recommend you break them out as specifically as possible.
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> So defamation would be quite different to identity theft.
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Michele
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>>>> Blacknight Solutions
>>>>> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
>>>>> http://www.blacknight.host/ <http://www.blacknight.host/>
>>>>> http://blog.blacknight.com/ <http://blog.blacknight.com/>
>>>>> http://ceo.hosting/ <http://ceo.hosting/>
>>>>> Intl. +353 (0) 59Ã‚  9183072
>>>>> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
>>>>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,
>>>>> IrelandÃ‚  Company No.: 370845
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of karnika <karnika at sethassociates.com> <mailto:karnika at sethassociates.com>
>>>>> Date: Saturday 23 July 2016 at 01:51
>>>>> To: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> I have prepared an Example Use case which is attached herewith. Please feel free to comment and give your inputs so that we can discuss it in our future meetings.
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> With Regards,
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Karnika Seth
>>>>> Attorney at law. & Founding Partner
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> SETH ASSOCIATES
>>>>> ADVOCATESÃ‚  AND LEGAL CONSULTANTS
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> ,
>>>>> <398b2597.jpg>
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> (O): B- 10, Sector 40, Noida-201301, N.C.R, India. Ã‚ (Mon-Sat, 9.30 am-6 pm)
>>>>> Tel: + 91(120) 4352846,4331304 ,
>>>>> Mob: + 91 9810155766
>>>>> Fax: + 91 (120) 4331304.
>>>>> Website: www.sethassociates.com <http://www.sethassociates.com/> , www.lexcyberia.com <http://www.lexcyberia.com/>
>>>>> E-mail: mail at sethassociates.com <mailto:mail at sethassociates.com>, mail at lexcyberia.com <mailto:mail at lexcyberia.com>
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Computers, Internet & New Technology Laws by Karnika Seth, Lexis Nexis Butterworths,2013 <http://www.lexisnexis.in/computers-internet-and-new-technology-laws-2013.htm>Ã‚
>>>>> <398b2597.gif>  <http://in.linkedin.com/pub/karnika-seth/3/87/110>Ã‚ LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/karnika-seth/3/87/110> Ã‚  <398b25a7.gif>  <https://www.facebook.com/karnika.seth.1>Ã‚ Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/karnika.seth.1> <398b25b6.gif>  <https://twitter.com/karnikaseth>Ã‚ Twitter <https://twitter.com/karnikaseth>
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> Ã‚
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg>_______________________________________________
>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg>_______________________________________________
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rds-pdp-wg

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg/attachments/20160724/0964aca0/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: 45B46C56-BE39-4932-8286-164C8D050227[3].png
Type: image/png
Size: 17183 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg/attachments/20160724/0964aca0/45B46C56-BE39-4932-8286-164C8D0502273.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 203 bytes
Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg/attachments/20160724/0964aca0/signature.asc>