[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Jul 25 14:30:27 UTC 2016
How about a nice little section in the use case template, something like
"is this current practice/future wish list item illegal?". Speaking
somewhat facetiously here, but quite frankly since we have not agreed
the ultimate purpose of the collection, use, retention and disclosure of
registration data, it seems to me that we are building a house before
digging the foundation here.
Stephanie Perrin
On 2016-07-25 9:33, Marika Konings wrote:
>
> Kathy, as discussed during the last meeting, the objective of the use
> cases is to look at particular real world scenarios involving RDS and
> identify and better understand WHOIS uses following which it may be
> determined whether these concern permissible or non-permissible and/or
> primary / secondary uses.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
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>
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> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman
> <kathy at kathykleiman.com>
> *Date: *Monday 25 July 2016 at 15:10
> *To: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case
>
> @Marika, with absolute respect, I need to share that no company
> develops a directory of secondary uses of personal and sensitive data
> based on all the ways people want to use it. The discussion is always,
> first and foremost, about how you have to Limit the Availability of
> personal and sensitive data for secondary uses consistent with
> national law (of the company) and the national laws of the citizens
> (whose data is being collected).
>
> No one does it this way, guys.
>
> Kathy
>
> On 7/25/2016 5:08 AM, Marika Konings wrote:
>
> Ayen, I think you may be misinterpreting what Lisa stated. Note
> that she said ‘we are starting with use cases to develop a shared
> understanding of today's real-world scenarios. It's very useful to
> flag problems that may need to be solved, possible improvements,
> etc, within use cases.’ which could include something like user
> wants X to be able to do Y, but for reasons A and B this is not
> possible under the existing WHOIS protocol. Rod’s email sheds some
> further light on how use cases where approached in the context of
> the EWG that might be helpful.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> *Marika Konings*
>
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> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Ayden
> Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>
> *Date: *Monday 25 July 2016 at 10:58
> *To: *Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com> <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org"
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> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case
>
> I share Lisa's interpretation of this task. At this stage of our
> work plan, we should only be looking at how the existing WHOIS
> protocol is being used or misused.
>
> - Ayden
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 8:27 PM, Lisa Phifer lisa at corecom.com
> <mailto:lisa at corecom.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> My answer was not intended to limit how use cases are used by
> the WG throughout this PDP. It was just to clarify the focus
> of the current action item seeking example use cases for
> discussion over the next couple of WG calls.
>
> While we are still prepping for deliberations, my
> understanding was that we are starting with use cases to
> develop a shared understanding of today's real-world scenarios.
>
> It's very useful to flag problems that may need to be solved,
> possible improvements, etc, within use cases. However,
> /deliberating on/ any new possible requirements suggested
> within an example use case should occur once we enter
> deliberation.
>
> Best, Lisa
>
>
> At 01:09 PM 7/24/2016, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
>
> Why? If that's the rule, then there's no point: we're
> doomed forever to the stupidity of Whois.
>
> A
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> Please excuse my clumbsy thums.
>
> On Jul 24, 2016, at 14:55, Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com
> <mailto:lisa at corecom.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> Good question - use cases should describe today's
> real-world scenarios.
>
>
> At 11:57 AM 7/24/2016, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
>
>
> Just as a question, when we do use cases are we
> supposed to put in hypotheticals or talk about
> them as they are now? Eg tiered access does not
> exist at the moment, do we imagine our use cases
> as we would like to see them? Sorry not to have
> been paying close enough attention to this.
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
> On 2016-07-24 12:48, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> wrote:
>
>
> Karnika
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> Thanks for the example.
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> In order to make it easier to process use
> cases I̢۪d rd recommend you break them out
> as specifically as possible.
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> So defamation would be quite different to
> identity theft.
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> *Subject: *[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Example Use case
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> Dear All,
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> I have prepared an Example Use case which is
> attached herewith. Please feel free to comment
> and give your inputs so that we can discuss it
> in our future meetings.
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