[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act

Wed Jun 22 16:44:54 UTC 2016

We are getting ahead of ourselves here.  We are not yet in the deliberation stage.  Please be patient and wait until we are deliberating on these points.

Chuck

From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:29 AM
To: Volker Greimann; gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act
Importance: High

Honestly by way of your reply, You probably don't take the ISIS threat or the The treat of Digital Terrorism seriously or relate to it at all. I would like to request you to take a step back and deliberate on my point not push your view point on the list.

I will advocate that the NEXT-GEN requirement should include the process where in during the completion of the purchase of a Domain Name the Information related should be absolutely mapped to the Social Security Number of the buyer - supported by a password authentication on the buyer's cell phone and verification of the govt. Issued ID. It should be the Registry-Registrar relationship responsibility to get this organized and certified by the respective governments AND the data be made public, in-terms of the validations made and rejections done. For authentication purpose, the procedure could be the same as the TMCH undertakes. Validating the respective trademarks. Infact, the process of buyer validation will be much easier than that of the Trademark as most countries, either developed or Developing, have the social Security format is one way or the other, Digitized already and some kind of government facilitation is available for the API's to be integrated, if need to do so arises.

As a Aware resident of this humble world, I need to be sure that my Digital World is safe from threats. Rather, if this solution is implemented in part of in full, Many Registries will save huge costs on Network infrastructure as this will be able to deal with Internet Spam and Domain-Squatting making it a clean register for the registries to maintain.

Customer Privacy is of pivotal Importance, but not more than Digital Terrorism. In the wake of Free Speech and Privacy, we land up risking the lives of our loved ones.
The Data can be made available for the investigating agencies but that is so many times a long process, so there should be transparency in the system, creating every view of such information private by way of reader authentication. So if I want to read your Information or access it, I need to log in, a Text Authentication, or create an account by uploading my ID etc. etc. Take the example of Linkedin - the Authentication Algorithm is good but there are so many cases of wrongful display information in the user accounts there in too. But on a Dating site like Tinder - It works as the Authentication has checks built in - yet automated. Lets not make Internet an Uber - where everyone runs amok.

And Lastly, My right to Internet is More than yours perhaps as I represent a MUCH larger set of population that you. So to speak so lets not use the expression, and you quote - "If we start looking at the countries which do not care about the privacy of their citizens, then we will get nowhere. Only be adhering to a maximum standard can we ensure that the result is workable for all providers and their customers", in isolation. We have to look at the Global Picture and It is our endeavor to do "Best Practice Sharing" and make everyone Grow, together. There is much to learn about the Universe - both On the Earth and outside the earth.

I look forward to deliberating on this further more.

Best
-VA

From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:36 PM
To: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act

Frankly, as a provider that is handing over private details of my customer I do not care about anything less than the maximum required protection in any jurisdiction that may be applicable. So what if the states have lower privacy protection requirements than Europe and India has none? The only acceptable result in my eyes is an accomodation of the most extensive privacy protection level that may be required.

If we start looking at the countries which do not care about the privacy of their citizens, then we will get nowhere. Only be adhering to a maximum standard can we ensure that the result is workable for all providers and their customers.

Volker

Am 22.06.2016 um 08:59 schrieb Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal:
Since India has no privacy laws, so this WG can perhaps deliberate more to accommodate and protect such countries where no legislation exists as such. This will allow the group to offer a wholistic, and long term policy perspective, justifying NEXT-GEN.

Regards,
-Vaibhav Aggarwal
New Delhi
TheVaibhav.com<http://thevaibhav.com>

From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>>
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 11:59 AM
To: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>>
Cc: RDS WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The States are Getting into the Act

That is scary.

The Australian legislation (Privacy Act 1988) has a much broader definition:
            personal information means information or an opinion about an
            identified individual, or an individual who is reasonably
            identifiable:

(a)                                   (a) whether the information or opinion is true or not; and
                  (b) whether the information or opinion is recorded in a material

(a)   form or not.
 And the Privacy Commissioner ruled that the definition included meta data (that decision is being challenged, but then look at the EU as to meta data)

Holly

On 22 Jun 2016, at 4:08 pm, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>> wrote:

The Illinois Personal Information Protection Act<http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2702&ChapAct=815%A0ILCS%A0530/&ChapterID=67&ChapterName=BUSINESS%20TRANSACTIONS&ActName=Personal%20Information%20Protection%20Act.> might be of mild interest, particularly the definitions....and what is excluded:

"
"Personal information" means an individual's first name or first initial and last name in combination with any one or more of the following data elements, when either the name or the data elements are not encrypted or redacted:
        (1) Social Security number.
        (2) Driver's license number or State identification

card number.

        (3) Account number or credit or debit card number, or

an account number or credit card number in combination with any required security code, access code, or password that would permit access to an individual's financial account.

"Personal information" does not include publicly available information that is lawfully made available to the general public from federal, State, or local government records.
(Source: P.A. 97-483, eff. 1-1-12.)

-Carlton

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