[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose

Wed Jan 25 10:10:05 UTC 2017

David

I think the key thing is to remember that there is a very significant difference between “think” and “thin”.

While I would happily debate collection, publication and access to elements that fall solely under “thick” I cannot and will not when it comes to “thin” data, which is what we have been going round in circles with for the last couple of weeks.

Reviewing the thin elements briefly:

-          Domain – well if you don’t want anyone to know what it is why on earth did you register it?

-          Registrar – I can’t see any issue with that being disclosed and its disclosure actually helps

-          Registry – even if it wasn’t directly published in the whois (or its replacement) it’s very Highlander-esque, so it’s not hard to find

-          Nameservers – unless you come up with a magic protocol that allows for domain name resolution without actually letting anyone know which nameservers you’re using then this needs to be out there

-          Registration date – I can’t see an issue with this

-          Expiry date – ibid
And the rest of it is all just a bunch of EPP status stuff about last modified (though not by whom) and that’s about it ..

Now when we get into thick that’s a whole other kettle of fish ..

Regards

Michele

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From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of David Cake <dave at davecake.net>
Date: Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 08:25
To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose

I very much agree with this comment from Stephanie, as did a number of other people on the most recent call. This issue - of the difference between collection and disclosure as regards purpose - is significant and needs discussion in further detail. Though it may seem not that significant when we are only talking about ‘thin’ data that is likely going to be collected anyway, it becomes a much more significant difference when we broaden the range of data elements.

David

On 21 Jan 2017, at 8:02 am, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:

I filled it out, but I am afraid for most of the purposes I could not agree.  We do not collect data for many of those purposes.  We disclose it to people for those purposes, but the purpose of collecting those data elements is not for tax collection, trademark enforcement actions, etc.  This is the conflation issue I have raised repeatedly.
Apologies if I did not make that point clear enough on the call.
Stephanie Perrin

On 2017-01-20 17:35, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
Please note that our current poll ends in about 24 hours.  So far only 16 people have responded.

Chuck

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose

Dear all,

As directed in the 18 January WG call, this week's new Poll on Purpose is now open for WG member participation:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/SZX9QJZ

A PDF of this poll's questions and notes/recordings of the meeting are posted on the 18 January meeting page:https://community.icann.org/x/EbTDAw

This poll will close at COB Saturday 21 January 2017.

All WG members are encouraged to participate in this poll to help advance deliberation and prepare for next week's meeting.

Best regards,
Lisa

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