[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Now open: 18 January Poll on Purpose

[Rob Golding]

>>> 	Regardless of the privacy implications, if someone who wants to look
>>> up a hostname and can't find can't figure out what the authoritative
>>> nameservers are for the domain, DNS quite simply will not work and
>>> with it the internet is down; go home.

>> Plenty of RDS failures happen - with some registries/registrars their
>> whois is down more than up, and the internet still works, the domains
>> still work and so on
>>  - domains resolve based on the nameservers of the domain returning an
>> appropriate answer, neither the nameserver details nor the answer are
>> retrieved from any RDS, and the inclusion (or not) in RDS will not be
>> changing that in any way

> My point wasn't that RDS has to be correct... my point was the registries
> need to collect and present this data anyway and it has to be globally
> consistent and accessible (via DNS).  

We aren't talking about DNS, we aren't (able to or even contemplating) changing DNS - so the nameservers being available for DNS (as they would have to be) I think is a perfectly good reason _not_ to include them in RDS

Data should exist once, only once and exactly once :)

If there is already a way to get it, why create yet another store/display method _in addition to not replacing_ the  correct existing method ?
(especially with the inherrant issues we have now that the data isn't necessarily accurate)


> So the entities collect and display it to
> users using the right commands anyway, so turning around and saying we
> have to shield it from RDS as a privacy risk is a fallacy

I (personally) don't think _nameservers_ is  privacy risk (I can already find out your nameservers should your domain have them set) -as _something_ needs to be able to query them for things to work 

I still don’t think duplicating data is ever a good idea, and in the (current) case of WHOIS is actively hurting rather than helping


Rob


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