[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] poll Question 4, concept vi

[Rod Rasmussen]

These two also follow Andrew’s rule of being public standards (largely universal as well).  As per a comment I made on chat about the e-mail element, for what *roles* are they required?  From that, you get “required for XXX contact” (e.g. Legal contact for serving process on address) for one or more roles.  From that, the corollary is that for a domain you either have 1) separate contacts for roles with the required data elements for that purpose, or 2) at least one contact (registrant or admin perhaps) that has those required contact elements that is assigned to that role by default.  In other words, if it is determined for example, that you need a postal address for legal process and you don’t have a “legal contact” role assigned, then you would need an admin or registrant contact that does have an address in it in order to meet that purpose.  Fill in your role needs/date element pairs from there as a separate exercise.

Cheers,

Rod

> On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com> wrote:
> 
> You have to ask:
> 1)  whether postal address should be required or optional, and 
> 2) whether phone number should be required or optional, and
> 3) whether some other contact method (other than email, postal, and phone) should be required or optional.
> 
> Postal address and phone are required by current ICANN policies and contracts, so we need to talk about them.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lisa Phifer [mailto:lisa at corecom.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com>; gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] poll Question 4, concept vi
> 
> Support for proposed key concept iv) is to be tested in this week's poll. Feel free to suggest an alternative to be tested by 18.00 UTC.
> 
> 
> At 11:39 AM 7/25/2017, Greg Aaron wrote:
>> Dear Chuck and Lisa:
>> 
>> I think item vi needs further discussion.  I don't think it follows 
>> from the poll results, and I want to make sure everyone understand what 
>> it implies.
>> 
>> Today's handout (slide 4) said:
>> "Question 4: Registrant email Address...
>> Based on poll results (including comments), possible key concepts might be:
>> iv) Data enabling at least one way to contact the registrant must be 
>> collected and included in the RDS.
>> v) At minimum, the registrant's email address must be collected and 
>> included in the RDS.
>> vi) Data enabling one alternative or preferred method of contact may 
>> also be optionally collected and included in the RDS."
>> 
>> Item iv logically means: "postal address and phone number can be 
>> optional to collect".  Those are alternate methods of contact.  But 
>> only email address would be required.
>> 
>> I don't think that conclusion follows from the polling, and I don't 
>> think we've gotten that far.
>> 
>> Personally, I think that postal address and phone are important to collect.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> --Greg
>> 
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