[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Who is in charge? (was Re: Why the thin data is necessary)]
Michael Peddemors
michael at linuxmagic.com
Thu Jun 8 16:08:03 UTC 2017
On 17-06-08 08:10 AM, John Horton wrote:
> That said, and with full respect and appreciation for the EWG's work, I
> strongly oppose the EWG report, and for those who want to know the
> reasons (and are willing to slog through a critical analysis of it), I
> encourage you to review my 2013 letter
> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/input-to-ewg/attachments/20130823/410038bb/LegitScriptCommentsonICANNEWGWhoisReplacementStructure-0001.pdf> to
> the EWG, which admittedly was based on the Initial Report (not Final
> Report), but all of my reasons still hold as the Final Report still
> contained, generally at least, the same elements even if the wording
> changed a bit. We don't have to accept the EWG report, and my personal
> view is that it should be rejected by our group because:
Could that be added to the survey/vote chuck?
Sorry, but this last couple of days has turned into two camps throwing
rocks over the fence at each other..
This doesn't seem like something for the working group.. Positions have
been made clear.. but the arguments about the why parties want to be
anonymous, and any allegations that it is simply a smoke screen for them
to be able to harbour illicit actors, vs real privacy considerations,
well maybe this isn't for the working group to discuss.
Maybe a court action claiming an actor (eg registrar) is complicit in
allowing criminal activity be launched, and then have another party file
a counter suit based on privacy, and let it go up to the supreme court
and let THEM decide whether privacy trumps security..
I don't think it is this working group's role to even try to make those
decisions.
This is about whether to recommend a replacement to whois, and if so
what form it should take. And we have gotten far off topic on that..
Personally, the existing technology works.. and just because allegations
of privacy problems exist, and no confirmation on how substantive these
allegations are, or even whether this is a substantive issue enough to
justify another 'new method', it's costs, complexities, and impact on
the existing internet.
But again, that is a side note.. this group is supposed to layout 'what'
should such a replacement best look like, IF an alternative is deemed
necessary at all.
It 'could' be that the recommended replacement is actually the same as
the existing, but with agreed on ways to address the issues that
escalated in the idea of the formation of this working group in the
first place.
Chuck, maybe another list called 'wg-battleground' could be started
though for those that enjoy the rock throwing, or who the time to read
all the arguments, and bring back to the working group any
nuggets/conclusions that have merit in the discussion.
Sorry, way to much to keep up on, so going silent for a week or so..
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