[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPROTANT - Action Items and Notes from Next-Generation RDS PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017

benny at nordreg.se benny at nordreg.se
Thu May 18 08:38:55 UTC 2017


And here Paul the logic are breaking

A domain are not a property, when registering a domain you only get the right to use is as long as you pay a fee for that.
If you go to lease/rent a car you are not entitled to know who has driven it before or what it has been used for.
Same if someone transfer the user rights for a phonenumber to you, that don’t give you any legal right to know who has used it before

IMHO this is one og the biggest misunderstandings of domains, it is not your property as a registrant, its a granted license as long as you pay the yearly nothing more nothing less. It’s pretty simple.

 

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> On 17 May 2017, at 19:52, Paul Keating <paul at law.es> wrote:
> 
> When you go to buy a used car would you think that knowing the history of
> ownership might be important?
> 
> When you buy a house, do you not believe that knowing who the prior owners
> were and verifying the validity of prior transfers was important?
> 
> When dealing with a trademark issue, do you not believe it important to be
> able to see the registration records and assignment histories?
> 
> 
> Please explain to me what is the difference with a domain name?
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 5/17/17, 7:46 PM, "Jeremy Malcolm" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> on behalf of jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 17/5/17 9:40 am, Michael Peddemors wrote:
>>> Yes, this is the common argument, however IMHO this is a red herring..
>>> There are more efficient ways for 'harvesters' to gain data, and
>>> others way to prevent such abuse..
>>> 
>>> Again, IMHO this argument is another case of impacting the many
>>> legitimate users, for the sake of a few bad apples..
>>> 
>>> And I havent' seen any arguments yet, of a case scenario which can't
>>> be addressed by other means..
>> 
>> So to reverse this, what are the *legitimate* purposes of harvesting?
>> 
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