[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from 29 August Meeting
Stephanie Perrin
stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Sep 4 14:21:38 UTC 2017
Thanks for this very helpful explanation Marika. It actually confirms
what I feared, and I have a very hard time accepting that if data exists
in a separate system, it is not permitted to leave it out of an optional
field. It is of course entirely possible that I am making a mistake
here because I do not understand exactly how ICANN defines or controls
the management of the SRS. Could you please answer that question?
THanks!
Stephanie Perrin
On 2017-09-04 09:31, Marika Konings wrote:
>
> For your information, the way ‘optional’ is defined in the advisory is
> as follows:
>
> /For each type of object query (domain name, registrar, or name
> server), this advisory identifies some fields as optional. For
> optional fields where no data exists in a contracted party's
> Registration System (SRS), the contracted party MUST implement either
> of: 1) the key (i.e., the string to the left of the colon) MUST be
> shown with no information in the value section (i.e., right-hand side
> of the colon) of the field; or 2) no field MUST be shown. If data
> exist for a given optional field, the key and the value with the data
> MUST be shown./
>
> As such, existence in this context is defined as existing in the
> contracted party’s Registration System (SRS). Of course, it is up to
> the WG to discuss whether this definition of ‘optional’ is aligned
> with the WG’s thinking or whether a different description should
> apply, but I thought it might be helpful to share how ‘optional’ is
> currently applied in the context of the RAA’s Registration Data
> Directory Service (Whois) Specification.**
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Volker
> Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
> *Date: *Monday, September 4, 2017 at 03:02
> *To: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from
> 29 August Meeting
>
> That should be: If data exists in the RDS...
>
> Simple existence of the data somewhere does not qualify, it must be
> part of the whois data already.
>
> Volker
>
> Am 02.09.2017 um 01:50 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:
>
> It may be important to note from the April 27 advisory[icann.org]
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_registry-2Dagreement-2Draa-2Drdds-2D2015-2D04-2D27-2Den&d=DwMDaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=-QdZWRP9E0Tue1qZKrRqGbPGd97JSKbJ35HFizxbH3A&s=SqIs4n0FlFPbl8LZIPnaqe0VvjRh-sOgJJ2dJ2dIYGk&e=>
> on that Consensus Policy that if data exists for a given optional
> field, the data MUST be shown. So I would suggest we define
> optional in that way.
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com
> <mailto:gca at icginc.com>> wrote:
>
> The first question of this poll asks whether Reseller Name
> must be supported by the RDS, and whether it MUST or MAY be
> provided for inclusion in the RDS by Registrars.
>
> This issue was decided by the Registry Registration Data
> Directory Services Consistent Labeling and Display Policy, a
> Consensus Policy that went into effect 1 August 2017. It
> says: “In responses to domain name object queries the
> following fields are considered optional … Reseller.”
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/rdds-labeling-policy-2017-02-01-en[icann.org]
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> The policy says that the system must support this field, it’s
> optional for registrars to fill in that field, and the field
> is displayed in output if the registrar provided the data.
>
> TheWG is accepting the results of that Consensus Policy
> regarding Registrar Abuse contacts. So I suggest it also
> follow what that that same Consensus Policy says about for
> Reseller Name.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Greg
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> *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll
> from 29 August Meeting
> *Importance:* High
>
> Dear all,
>
> In follow-up to this week’s WG meeting, *all RDS PDP WG
> Members* are encouraged to participate in the following poll:
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DKQTQHP[surveymonkey.com]
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>
> **
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> Responses should be submitted through the above URL. For
> offline reference, a PDF of poll questions can also be found at:
>
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086750/Poll-from-29AugustCall.pdf[community.icann.org]
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> *This poll will close at COB Saturday 2 September. Poll
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> Lisa
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